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| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:32 | gwoo | if it needs to be extended for each application then that can happen |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:32 | AD7six | jperras: profile includes things like "email me replies to my comments" which would be an app by app thing |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:32 | jperras | true |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:33 | AD7six | so maybe included in what I'm thinking about is disassociating 'profile' from app settings(like user's role) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:33 | AD7six | a bakery admin isn't necessarily a book admin |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:34 | AD7six | which is something I'm going to be sorting out, but the same solution in principle applies to both apps, and any others that come |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:34 | AD7six | sorting out (for the book) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:37 | markstory | AD7six: I think that separating permissions and profile will be for the best in the long run. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:38 | markstory | or making separate permissions/roles for each app. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:38 | markstory | I remember seeing some unused fields in the current bakery schema. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:39 | AD7six | btw I volunteer to write whatever db conversion process is necessary such that bakery 2 doesn't need to be held back by anything in the existing schema |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:39 | jperras | nice |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:40 | AD7six | unless someone better qualified does it first :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:40 | gwoo | ACTION would like to see the proposed schema and changes |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:45 | jperras | there aren't any (yet), afaik |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:46 | jperras | i want to finish a couple mockups of the use cases before anything else is started |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:46 | jperras | so we're not running around in circles |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:47 | gwoo | jperras: ok sounds good |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:48 | AD7six | gwoo: I'm fiddling around with the schema now |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:50 | markstory | jperras: if you need help de-sketchifying those mockups I might have some time. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:52 | AD7six | is the attachments table used anywhere in the current bakery? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:52 | jperras | de-sketchifying? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:52 | AD7six | oh maybe I'm looking at a modified schema.. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:53 | markstory | yeah they look like balsamique mockups right now. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:53 | jperras | markstory: yep |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:53 | jperras | I have a hate-sometimes-but-rarely-love relationship with omnigraffle |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:53 | markstory | so changing them from that to something we can make CSS/html out of. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:54 | gwoo | AD7six: yes attachements is partially used |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:54 | AD7six | k |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:55 | jperras | markstory: ah ok, sweet |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:56 | markstory | I've never used balsamic. I should try it next time. I just do everything in pencil/paper and illustrator. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:59 | jperras | it's pretty good |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 10:59 | jperras | enough for me to shell out the $80US for it without blinking |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:47 | ADmad | greetings bakers |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:49 | gwoo | sup ADmad |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:50 | ADmad | ACTION is checking the logs :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:51 | jperras | ~logs |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:51 | jperras | hmm |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:51 | jperras | that's not right |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:53 | ADmad | what isnt ? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:53 | jperras | the ~logs call |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:56 | ADmad | you mean u cant find the logs for this channel ? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:56 | alkemann | click the logs tab and select this channel |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 11:56 | ADmad | http://irc.cakephp.org/logs |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:08 | jperras | alkemann: that would imply that I have a logs tab ;-). my irc client is terminal based |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:09 | jperras | what I meant was that the cakebot should be channel-aware in the ~logs command |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:09 | jperras | so that you can get http://irc.cakephp.org/logs/view/cakephp-bakery instead of the #cakephp deafult logs url |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:10 | alkemann | jperras: i meant in ur browser on the default location of ~logs |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:12 | ADmad | jperras: take that up with Predominant :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:17 | AD7six | for comment http://drop.io/bakeryschema |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:19 | AD7six | user (and profile) aren't shown in detail. and I've ommitted whatever permission/role tables/data would be required |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:21 | AD7six | I see some stuff I forgot to remove/simplify |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:22 | AD7six | jperras: would need dto be a task rather than a tell for a ~command to be channel aware afaik. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:23 | AD7six | well, with the code the last I looked at it that is. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:27 | ADmad | AD7six: your schema doesnt seem to have field for this => "For simpler organization translations of an article will be posted as new articles but they will be linked to the one they are translated from" |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:28 | AD7six | I don't see that as simpler, is it desired? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:29 | AD7six | but that reminds me of something I need to add to the book :P |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:29 | ADmad | that was the general concenses when we last dicussed that |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:30 | ADmad | unfortunately it was b4 this channel was logged :P |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:30 | AD7six | and at a guess after I left |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:30 | ADmad | maybe b4 you joined :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:31 | AD7six | what was the reasoning for wanting to do it that way - linking an article to a previous article would not allow "the original for this changed" to be accurately stored/determined |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:32 | ADmad | the idea behind this is bakery wont have any default language or have 1:1 translations |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:32 | AD7six | I'm adding a revision.based_on_id to the book |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:32 | AD7six | that's a given/fully understood and I'm glad to see it stated |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:33 | AD7six | but there's more than one way to do things, so what changes would you propose therefore |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:33 | ADmad | so we thought just specify the language when posting an article... than when someone wants to translate it just keep a link back to the original |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:34 | AD7six | ADmad: k. putting that to one side for a sec, do you agree with the idea of 'article' having no textual content in it? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:35 | ADmad | AD7six: yes i do... actual content in pages... thats fine... cause we were also wanting to impose a min. number of pages for an article based on its type.. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:36 | AD7six | oh nice, so a min_pages field in categories? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:36 | gwoo | AD7six: did you read the articles spec? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:36 | gwoo | it should all be in there |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:36 | ADmad | yes... plz check http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki/spec/articles |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:37 | gwoo | ADmad: jinx :P |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:37 | AD7six | I skimmed it and did n't notice anything standing out |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:37 | AD7six | but then, like usual lately, I slept only 4 hrs last night |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:37 | ADmad | AD7six: the n00bs are getting to you :P |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:37 | ADmad | check the bottom of that page |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:42 | AD7six | what does Articles can be set as Community owned by author, or moderator mean |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:44 | AD7six | and is "Code pages should be forced to put in these pages, optionally add more:" intended to be enforced by the app, or is it a tinyint on category? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:45 | ADmad | if we want a default title like "Code examples and usage description |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:45 | ADmad | for each page then i guess we need more than a tinyint |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:46 | AD7six | yeah that's what I mean - so add the structure for that? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:46 | ADmad | guess so |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:47 | ADmad | regarding community i think it means any user and update the article.. (wasnt present when community owned was discussed) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:47 | ADmad | *can update |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:48 | AD7six | should that be handled by the permission system, or via a flag on article do you think? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:48 | ADmad | shouldnt a flag be enough ? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:49 | alkemann | community owned articles are either when an author abandons it by giving it up to the community or when moderators cant get hold of the author and it needs to be updated. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:49 | AD7six | I assume so, I'm just provoking a dialogue :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:49 | alkemann | a flad should be enough. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:49 | alkemann | flag even |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:50 | ADmad | alkemann: glad you decided to stop bouncing and join in for good :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:51 | alkemann | damn wireless |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:52 | ADmad | AD7six: could you please post the next iteration of the schema somewhere where the full size can be viewed without dloading.. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:52 | AD7six | yeah sucks doesn't it (I thought it, the app, looked cool till I couldn't read it) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:53 | alkemann | kinda major weakness :( |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:54 | alkemann | so something i thought about earlier that at least poLK liked. including the deprecated article feature from debuggable |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:55 | AD7six | alkemann: how about rather than specifically deprecated, optionally (by admin) attaching 'behavior' to tags |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 12:56 | AD7six | I don't know if that's very useful (?) just thinking of a more general use for the code |