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| # | Username | Text | |
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| # | Feb 17th 2009, 15:11 | teknoid | nope, my mistake... |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 15:11 | teknoid | thx |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 15:27 | teknoid | so i did, now the blame will fall on you like thunder for my "niceness" ;) |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 15:59 | alkemann | god kveld |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 16:00 | rvv | aften |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 16:02 | alkemann | petter might have booked us for a show of possible office tomorrow |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 16:04 | ADmad | alkemann: are you turning this channel into your personal chat room :P |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 16:09 | alkemann | uhm.. is that a trick question? i thought they all were |
| # | Feb 17th 2009, 16:12 | alkemann | well. im going to bed.. good nite |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:31 | d1rk | hi gwoo, hi all. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:32 | d1rk | i am reading the wiki on thechaw. Is there anything i should focus on? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:32 | gwoo | hi d1 |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:32 | gwoo | alkemann d1rk was workgin on bakery1 so he has some insight |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:32 | gwoo | d1rk: we are focusing on use cases right now |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:33 | gwoo | jperras: is working on a modified design |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:33 | gwoo | which will be based on the use cases and specs |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:33 | alkemann | cool. more the merrier :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:33 | alkemann | up to a point at least :p |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:33 | gwoo | yup |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:34 | gwoo | this should help us get things done a bit faster |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:35 | d1rk | gwoo: yeah. I do not know how much time i can currently spend, but i will try to focus on some tasks and get them done fast. So, to make my step in a bit easier it would be great if someone feelds responsible for me, talking about todos or tickets or something. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:37 | jperras | should have some wireframes soon enough. got sidetracked a bit last evening. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:37 | alkemann | my thinking is that we are in the gathering and brainstorming fase. at some point we need to decide and stamp the spec. at that point, someone (was planing on offering myself) finishes the baking process and sets up shop. then we get a trac up and make task tickets and everyboyd in the project can grab a ticket (task) at a time |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:38 | d1rk | alkemann: sounds good. will the tickets be in thechaw? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:38 | alkemann | i've never done project management where coders submit to different branches / forks though, so i dont know if we wanna do that and if so how that complicates things |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:38 | alkemann | d1rk: yea i assume so :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:39 | d1rk | alkemann: i will make my thoughts about what i would expect from bakery and share this on the wiki or here. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:39 | d1rk | alkemann: i would not fork. is that planned? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:39 | alkemann | d1rk: unless it simple random thoughts, it would be great if u can put them in the wiki so we have them written down :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:39 | d1rk | jperras: i am looking forward to it. bakery really needs some face.lifting.... |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:40 | alkemann | d1rk: no, atm we have a master branch and a "2.0.x.x" branch |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:40 | alkemann | master being empty and "2.0.x.x" having current code situatation |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:40 | d1rk | alkemann: sure. I will do some processing on my thoughts. I guess, there is no signal if i just share random ideas. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:40 | d1rk | alkemann: yeah, i remember. I had a look in the 2.0 branch some months ago. Did it change much since then? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:40 | gwoo | d1rk: http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki/rfc/random-thoughts |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:41 | gwoo | d1rk: yes, it is all new |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 11:42 | alkemann | brb (shower) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:04 | alkemann | jperras: when u say wireframes, I (coming from a 3d graphics background) see strange images of a website with just outlines/strokes |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:06 | jperras | alkemann: that's not too far from the truth, actually |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:07 | jperras | web mockups are usually barebones, with only the broad outlines of where items and images will be placed |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:07 | alkemann | so its a graphic design tool more than a app design tool? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:11 | jperras | alkemann: precisely |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:12 | jperras | most web graphic designers start from wireframes |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:13 | alkemann | ok. cause when i think of mockups im thinking about app design. ugly bugly trying to figure out what elements, info, buttons and links need to be on a page |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:13 | jperras | which are pretty much just a pdf with the broad outlines of the elements of a sit. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:13 | alkemann | gotta seperate the two so the graphic designer doesnt design application flow |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:13 | jperras | alkemann: no, I'm not going that far. More like where should the search box go, left or right navigation, etc. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:13 | jperras | (ref. previous statment) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:15 | alkemann | hey ADmad |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:15 | ADmad | howdy |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:21 | d1rk | Hi ADmad |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:21 | d1rk | jperras: what tool are you using for wireframes? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:22 | ADmad | hi d1rk |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:24 | jperras | d1rk: omnigrafle usually, but I've been meaning to try out Balsamiq |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:25 | d1rk | jperras: ok. And what is your design-tool of choice? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:25 | jperras | d1rk: a sharp #2 pencil. sometimes with an eraser. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:26 | jperras | I don't do that much design, actually ;-) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:28 | d1rk | jperras: ok |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:29 | d1rk | i added two use-cases: # bookmark/fav other's articles in personal profile # find bookmarked/faved articles |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:29 | d1rk | i think, one could query against most-faved articles so to have another possibility to teaser or highlight articles in a way. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:30 | d1rk | that way, one could categorize (relevant) content of the bakery for oneself. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:31 | jperras | let's put the recommendation engine on th back burner |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:31 | d1rk | i find myself looking for articles on bakery for more than 10 times. If i would have them in something like a remember-list i would just login, click that list and have a look over that small list. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:32 | d1rk | jperras: yeah. recommendation is not important right now. But starting to produce data, that can be used for it is important. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:32 | jperras | I think a 'favourites' list is a good idea |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:32 | d1rk | jperras: thank you. Do you think it is enough to put them on the use-case list? Or do i have to explain that further somewhere in the wiki? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:32 | jperras | but the dataset that the bakery will generate will not be anything close to what would be needed to produce any sort of semi-intelligent rec eng. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:33 | jperras | d1rk: put it in the random thoughts, and in the use cases |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:33 | d1rk | jperras: i just thought that: if more than x ppl have that article on his/her list, it is more likely to be of interest for other people. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:33 | d1rk | jperras: ok |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:35 | alkemann | i dont think we should have too many systems :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:36 | alkemann | im not sure i see the strength of favorite over users just bookmarking stuff they like |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:38 | jperras | I agree that we shouldn't try to jam too much functionality in, but putting it in the wiki can't hurt for now |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:38 | d1rk | i put it into http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki/rfc/random-thoughts |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:39 | d1rk | the benefits i see most from it are: person has more connection to bakery as he/she starts to customize or saves (more or less) personal data in it. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:39 | alkemann | jperras: sure. there's room :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:39 | d1rk | second: it makes it possible to weight articles that makes it easier to display more interesting articles. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:40 | d1rk | right now, all articles are of the same weight. That way, it is almost boring to see a long list. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:40 | ADmad | i personally dont like so much *community* oriented features |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:40 | alkemann | d1rk: there is lots of stuff on rating in the wiki atm. and jperras has some math degree he wants to use and make some nice formula :p |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:40 | d1rk | But that way we could highlight more faved articles and/or higher ranked ones. That makes it possible to create richer content-experience |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:41 | d1rk | alkemann: hehe |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:41 | d1rk | ADmad: it is less community as it is not to communicate with others. It is for personal remember-me list. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:41 | d1rk | but we could fetch the data to make something of it. there is no interaction between users in that scenario |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:45 | alkemann | d1rk: though, it's not good data to use quality. just popularity. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:47 | jperras | if all we want is a popularity metric, there's page views and # delicious bookmarks |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:48 | alkemann | no we want quality measure i meant |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:48 | alkemann | we can use views for popularity was my point as well |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 12:56 | d1rk | alkemann: a combination of all usually implies (at least a little bit of) quality |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:45 | d1rk | alkemann: is there something like a continious integration process for bakery2? |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:48 | alkemann | a what= |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:53 | jperras | d1rk: you need a very well defined api and test cases for that |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 | jperras | two things which bakery does not yet have |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 | d1rk | jperras: oh, ok. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 | d1rk | i thought we could push the latest revision onto a test-server or something on every commit. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 | d1rk | alkemann: it means to have a automatic deployment to a staging-server that is initiated by a commit. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 | jperras | and ci is really only useful for a nearly complete, stable product |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 | d1rk | jperras: well, i like the idea of having it (actually, i use it on all my projects) because i can have a look if everything turns out as it should be. And well, it is possible to show other people as well, what had been done. |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:56 | alkemann | if u set it up, i dont see a problem. but once we got a spec down, this is kinda of a simpe project :) |
| # | Feb 18th 2009, 13:56 | d1rk | jperras: i see your point, but i do not agree at all. actually every commit should try not to break everything. |