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# May 22nd 2010, 05:22 PhpNut welcome
# May 22nd 2010, 05:22 PhpNut this channel is for bakery.cakephp.org development
# May 22nd 2010, 05:22 zairo ok thanks :)
# May 22nd 2010, 05:21 PhpNut zairo: join #cakephp
# May 22nd 2010, 05:21 zairo in my controller i have this: var $helpers = array('Flash', 'FlashChart');
# May 22nd 2010, 05:19 zairo actually i am using OpenFlashChart helper. i don't know where to define a class. sorry i am new to cakephp.
# May 22nd 2010, 05:05 zairo ok thanks. will try it
# May 22nd 2010, 05:02 Predominant Define or include a class called 'open_flash_cart'
# May 22nd 2010, 05:01 zairo hi. how to solve this error msg?: Class 'open_flash_chart' not found
# May 21st 2010, 15:16 wedlink ok.. i am out
# May 21st 2010, 15:16 ADmad well then be patient and ask again after sometime. This is not the channel for general cakephp help
# May 21st 2010, 15:16 savant sokay :)
# May 21st 2010, 15:16 wedlink I am sorry..
# May 21st 2010, 15:16 savant you left the room before I could answer ;)
# May 21st 2010, 15:15 wedlink I asked over there and no one answered.. but ok.. thanks..
# May 21st 2010, 15:15 ADmad * #cakephp
# May 21st 2010, 15:15 ADmad wedlink: wrong channel. ask in #cakphp. (you need a registered nick to talk in there)
# May 21st 2010, 15:13 wedlink hello, I just have a quick , question.. I just updated to the latest stable version of cake, and now it is asking me to name my behavior classes "nameBehaviorBehavior" in a file "name_behavior.php", has anyone else notice this??
# May 21st 2010, 00:22 savant adios
# May 21st 2010, 00:22 Guest91223 ok gotta run, laters
# May 21st 2010, 00:22 Guest91223 even though zend is finally going that way in the next major release
# May 21st 2010, 00:21 Guest91223 but I must admit, cake's db abstraction is more advanced that zend
# May 21st 2010, 00:21 Guest91223 it is a MVC framework aswell as libs
# May 21st 2010, 00:21 Guest91223 it is hard to setup, but seems more appropriate for large scale apps
# May 21st 2010, 00:21 savant regardless, cakephp has done me well
# May 21st 2010, 00:21 savant i needed a framework, not a bunch of libraries
# May 21st 2010, 00:20 savant yeah i used zend once. i didn't like it.
# May 21st 2010, 00:20 Guest91223 I started to use cake about 3 years ago and then after 6 months swittched to Zend, and have been using it since ;)
# May 21st 2010, 00:20 savant since a week after 1.2 stable
# May 21st 2010, 00:19 savant about a year or so
# May 21st 2010, 00:18 Guest91223 found them :)
# May 21st 2010, 00:18 Guest91223 and where are the test cases for the cake core files?
# May 21st 2010, 00:17 Guest91223 btw how long have you been using cake for?
# May 21st 2010, 00:17 Guest91223 I gotta run to work, but chat to you later on and/or over the weekend ;), we can discuss more :)
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 savant just saying :)
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 Guest91223 but thank you for your suggestion
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 Guest91223 that is too short sighted my friend
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 savant which right now is simpletest
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 Guest91223 which I cant get into now, but happy to discuss over the weeknd ;)
# May 21st 2010, 00:16 savant so test the cakephp way?
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 Guest91223 both have their pros and cons
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 Guest91223 but the project has already been started in cake
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 Guest91223 I would
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 savant )
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 savant might as well use Zend if you want Zend features
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 Guest91223 and depends how elegant it is too
# May 21st 2010, 00:15 Guest91223 if it works, then it could be contributed
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 savant unless you're going to contribute :)
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 Guest91223 well thats going a bit far ;), I bet you want me to go AOP too :p
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 savant just because it is planned for the future does not mean it should be hacked in now
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 savant oh and use Spl where possible
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 Guest91223 where are all the tests kept?
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 savant how about you also deprecate the File and Folder classes
# May 21st 2010, 00:14 Guest91223 I have downloaded cakephp 2.0
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 ready for monday
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 I need to sort something out this weekend :(
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 that might be an option
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 *be
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 savant why dont you hack in class autoloading?
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 e
# May 21st 2010, 00:13 Guest91223 it shouldnt b
# May 21st 2010, 00:12 savant and if you have that mindset
# May 21st 2010, 00:12 savant to be honest, any method you device to stuff phpunit would be quite a hack
# May 21st 2010, 00:12 Guest91223 foresight is an amazing thing, we dont usually have it, but with this we do, so might as well make use of it ;)
# May 21st 2010, 00:12 Guest91223 now that we know it is moving, we should not need to migrate in the future, just start doing it that way from now
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 savant migrating test suites is not that big of a deal
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 (some how :s )
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 I will get it work with phpunit
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 I wont be
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 the project will be ongoing for years
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 savant so then be testless?
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 even if in the next year
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 savant change in a year or two
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 Guest91223 even if it is not in the next 2 weeks
# May 21st 2010, 00:11 savant then test now
# May 21st 2010, 00:10 Guest91223 but it still silly to learn/spend time on somethign that is going to change
# May 21st 2010, 00:10 Guest91223 savant: I dont think simpletest is that bad, in some cases it is even better than phpunit
# May 21st 2010, 00:10 savant SimpleTest isn't that terrible
# May 21st 2010, 00:10 savant and you said you needed to test now
# May 21st 2010, 00:10 savant and i cannot imagine it's going to be released within the next two weeks
# May 21st 2010, 00:09 savant Guest91223: cakephp 1.3 and 2.0 will likely not be the simplest migration
# May 21st 2010, 00:08 Guest91223 2. if everything is going that way, it seems a waste to learn/use/integrate a redundant method/process
# May 21st 2010, 00:08 Guest91223 1. because I am more familiar with phpunit (I come from Zend Framework)
# May 21st 2010, 00:08 Guest91223 for 2 reasons:
# May 21st 2010, 00:05 Predominant Why can't you test with the builtin suite?
# May 21st 2010, 00:05 Guest91223 good idea, I can see how they are doing it
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Guest91223 true, but I cant wait until then, I need to start testing sooner :(
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Predominant You are welcome to follow those developments, and contribute where you can
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Predominant Well, PHPUnit is happening in CakePHP 2.0
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Predominant ACTION nods.
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Guest91223 Predominant: I cant be the first person who wants to do it?
# May 21st 2010, 00:04 Guest91223 Predominant: Thanks, I thought so, hence why i am asking how to do it
# May 20th 2010, 15:52 Predominant You would need to write your own testing suite to incorporate it.
# May 20th 2010, 15:52 Predominant Guest91223: CakePHP 1.x doesnt support PHPUnit
# May 20th 2010, 14:34 Guest91223 jose_zap: true, but it does not help me now ;)
# May 20th 2010, 13:58 jose_zap Guest91223: cake 2.0 will use phpunit
# May 20th 2010, 13:10 Guest91223 any pointers or links to tutorials/examples would be great :)
# May 20th 2010, 13:10 Guest91223 I have used phpunit before and know how to set it up, but not with cake
# May 20th 2010, 13:10 Guest91223 I am having some major issues setting it up
# May 20th 2010, 13:10 Guest91223 has anyone tried using phpunit with cakephp?