Log message #583898

# At Username Text
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 AD7six I only found out when replies showed up including mariano_iglesias's messages after my pm
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 AD7six I think I was pm-ing users that mariano had already contacted previously
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 jperras just to prevent the same author from being bombarded by several moderators at the same time
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 jperras ok
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 AD7six I think it didn't used to but got fixed jperras
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 gwoo yes
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:02 gwoo jperras: all moderators
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 jperras gwoo: does that show up for all?
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 alkemann moderators can see all author PMs?
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 gwoo then they have not been contacted
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 gwoo jperras: if there is no author PM
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 gwoo but i want the policy to stay the same
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 jperras I don't think there is currently a way of determining if an author has already been contacted by a moderator, iirc.
# Mar 11th 2009, 10:01 gwoo good
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:59 alkemann i am willing to put my $ where my mouth is yes
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 gwoo mariano_iglesias: can make you a publishe=r
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 gwoo alkemann: you want to take over that job?
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 gwoo yes, and mariano_iglesias usually does a good job of that
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:56 alkemann the "nice" part of my argument is that if moderators explain what an author could do to improve it, in many cases they would
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:56 AD7six alkemann: I don't know what you're expecting me to say, I don't see this conversation going anywhere
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:55 alkemann AD7six: how fair will it be to let people publish their articles now, and in a month or two when bakery 2.0 goes online, their articles are cut?
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:54 AD7six oh I don't disagree (more importantly I don't disagree with your overall point) - but I don't think the overall policy should change until bakery 2.
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 AD7six there hasn't been a specific change of policy
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 alkemann by proxy, cake core team supports all bakery articles, it's important to have QA even if some authors feels they have "done enough"
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 AD7six "why is my article held back wanting xyz when there are so many already published without it"
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 AD7six alkemann: there are n (where n is a big number) of articles that authors refer to to know what to do
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 alkemann AD7six: i dont understand relevance of fairness
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 jperras context is important
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 jperras alkemann: I think that's a reasonable requirement, yes.
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 AD7six e.g. the xml tree helper - what's unclear about its objective
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 AD7six alkemann: I don't think with the current bakery it's necessary to be overly strict - it seems unfair to the authors
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 alkemann jperras: i meant : should provide clear explanations of the article's objective, and how that objective is achieved.
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:51 jperras alkemann: that requirement is a little difficult to fulfill, since there can easily be some overlap between two posts, yet their content/implementation may be different
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:50 alkemann last two part sorta supports my wish for some flesh around the code bits
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:48 alkemann what about "The topic should be of interest to a broad range of CakePHP developers. It should not have already been covered by another article and should provide clear explanations of the article's objective, and how that objective is achieved."
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:46 alkemann but that's neither here nor there
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:45 alkemann AD7six: currently the bakery states that all code must follow the https://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/Developement/CodingStandards - i bet you I could kill most the articles I dont "like" with this (existing) rule ;)
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:39 AD7six the recent foo articles is a different point for me
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:39 AD7six there are requirements alkemann but they aren't as strict as you're saying (is my point)
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:38 gwoo alkemann: we gave teknoid a chance, but it appears that he has just been publishing everything he sees
# Mar 11th 2009, 09:37 alkemann why even have moderation, if there arent any requirements for the stuff posted