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Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 |
gwoo |
mariano_iglesias: can make you a publishe=r |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 |
gwoo |
alkemann: you want to take over that job? |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:58 |
gwoo |
yes, and mariano_iglesias usually does a good job of that |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:56 |
alkemann |
the "nice" part of my argument is that if moderators explain what an author could do to improve it, in many cases they would |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:56 |
AD7six |
alkemann: I don't know what you're expecting me to say, I don't see this conversation going anywhere |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:55 |
alkemann |
AD7six: how fair will it be to let people publish their articles now, and in a month or two when bakery 2.0 goes online, their articles are cut? |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:54 |
AD7six |
oh I don't disagree (more importantly I don't disagree with your overall point) - but I don't think the overall policy should change until bakery 2. |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 |
AD7six |
there hasn't been a specific change of policy |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 |
alkemann |
by proxy, cake core team supports all bakery articles, it's important to have QA even if some authors feels they have "done enough" |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 |
AD7six |
"why is my article held back wanting xyz when there are so many already published without it" |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:53 |
AD7six |
alkemann: there are n (where n is a big number) of articles that authors refer to to know what to do |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
alkemann |
AD7six: i dont understand relevance of fairness |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
jperras |
context is important |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
jperras |
alkemann: I think that's a reasonable requirement, yes. |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
AD7six |
e.g. the xml tree helper - what's unclear about its objective |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
AD7six |
alkemann: I don't think with the current bakery it's necessary to be overly strict - it seems unfair to the authors |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:52 |
alkemann |
jperras: i meant : should provide clear explanations of the article's objective, and how that objective is achieved. |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:51 |
jperras |
alkemann: that requirement is a little difficult to fulfill, since there can easily be some overlap between two posts, yet their content/implementation may be different |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:50 |
alkemann |
last two part sorta supports my wish for some flesh around the code bits |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:48 |
alkemann |
what about "The topic should be of interest to a broad range of CakePHP developers. It should not have already been covered by another article and should provide clear explanations of the article's objective, and how that objective is achieved." |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:46 |
alkemann |
but that's neither here nor there |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:45 |
alkemann |
AD7six: currently the bakery states that all code must follow the https://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/Developement/CodingStandards - i bet you I could kill most the articles I dont "like" with this (existing) rule ;) |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:39 |
AD7six |
the recent foo articles is a different point for me |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:39 |
AD7six |
there are requirements alkemann but they aren't as strict as you're saying (is my point) |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:38 |
gwoo |
alkemann: we gave teknoid a chance, but it appears that he has just been publishing everything he sees |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:37 |
alkemann |
why even have moderation, if there arent any requirements for the stuff posted |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:37 |
AD7six |
you're right but it isn't [right now] |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:36 |
alkemann |
I think most or at least many would be willing to spend a little more time on it, if this was required / advocated |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:35 |
alkemann |
sorry for the self reference, but http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/flashhelper-a-wrapper-for-the-swfobject-js-class |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:33 |
AD7six |
I didn't (I generally don't look at the bakery) - foibles asside it's a useful example imo - there aren't that many examples of how to get xml around, and almostall helper articles are just that: the helper code only. |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:28 |
alkemann |
if it's ok that people only post their code, could we at least have stricted demands for the code? ie php doc and cleaned of debugs etc |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:21 |
alkemann |
imho this belongs in bin.cakephp.org and not bakery.cakephp.org .. |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:20 |
jperras |
'twas not I who published it |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:20 |
alkemann |
an example and/or description of what it does could be nice.. the example give doesnt actually tell me anything |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:18 |
mariano_iglesias |
i didnt |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:17 |
gwoo |
we really need to know "published_by" |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:17 |
gwoo |
i wonder if mariano_iglesias published that one |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:17 |
gwoo |
the debug should have been removed |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:16 |
gwoo |
and there is an example |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:16 |
gwoo |
so an article is not required |
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Mar 11th 2009, 09:16 |
gwoo |
alkemann: its in the "helper" sections |