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# Aug 7th 2008, 07:18 jonathan_ never mind, worked it out myself
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:20 alkemann thats ok. we dont mind being a teddy
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:21 slartibartfast76 Hello has some one experience to configure the htaccess files of cakephp with the provider webspace-verkauf.de ? Thanks in advance
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:24 alkemann most often the problem is that the webhost dont allow htaccess and what u gotta do is delete them and uncomment a line in config/core.php
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:25 lqdice__ get a diff webhost ;P
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:26 alkemann well. in reality the question is this : do u want a pretty your or a secure webapp ? and by pretty I mean do u mind the index.php part of domain.com/index.php/apples/edit
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:30 slartibartfast76 alkemann: thanks for the hint. I have deletet den htaccess files an unkomment the line in the core. But I still have rewritet URLs in the links of the Application. And get 404 error if I click on them.
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:30 lqdice__ how is url rewriting not secure?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:30 alkemann nice name slartibartfast76 :)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:30 lqdice__ its pretty much all around the net.. even on the big boys sites
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:30 alkemann i like him cause he is most proud of the country im from :P
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 stevieboy is there anything in cake for reading files?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 stevieboy some sweet magic?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 lqdice__ stevieboy: what kind of file
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 stevieboy text
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 stevieboy i can use fgets and so on
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:31 alkemann lqdice__: u can download a script, put it on ur server and u can then do "cd .." out to htdocs root and enter other ppls htdocs. (ok thats paraphrasing, I havent actually done it myself)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:32 alkemann stevieboy: xml parser probably uses something like that. have u looked at it?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:32 lqdice__ alkemann: not if your user is configured properly.. you MAY be able to do a ls but you wont be able to d/l or see anything if the user you are logged in as doesn't have permissions to anything outside of your folder
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:33 alkemann slartibartfast76: you wouldnt have had to do that if u had used $html->link instead of hardcoding them :P
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:33 lqdice__ stevieboy: the book contains the built in utilities.. maybe you can find something.. but use plain PHP if there isnt anything, nothing wrong w/ that
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:33 stevieboy alkemann: well, no. i'll check it. thx for the hint.
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:33 stevieboy lqdice__: i know... but you know... i love cake magic
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:33 alkemann lqdice__: "configured properly" off course. goes without saying. but many, too many, arent. I know that this is possible on two of the places that I have had things in the past
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:34 lqdice__ what does this have to do w/ ht access though ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:34 lqdice__ if the server is not configured properly you will have a lot of potential holes
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:35 Kitara is there a way to make AuthComponent redirect to /users/login instead of /plugin/users/login ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:35 alkemann Kitara: take another look at the api
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:36 lqdice__ Kitara: there are vars that lets you specify where to send when you login, where the login page is ,etc.. its in the books
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:36 lqdice__ Have any of you guys used the tree behaviour and added security around it .. basically I am trying to make a file explorer online but i need to limit the access to certain files for certain users
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:37 Kitara lqdice__: $this->Auth->loginAction = array('controller' => 'users', 'action' => 'login'); like this ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:37 lqdice__ looks good
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:37 alkemann lqdice__: what has the one to do with the other
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:37 Kitara still, does'nt work
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:37 alkemann Kitara: $this->Auth->loginRedirect
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:38 Kitara alkemann: that is for after the login right ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:38 alkemann yea, wasnt that what u were asking?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:38 lqdice__ Kitara: you can do 'users/login' too i believe..or try '/users/login' .. one of them wont keep the plugins there
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:38 lqdice__ alkemann: well if you think about it, if I give access to some file, i need to show the entire directory tree.. so its just tricky
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:39 primeminister achew22: you still here?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:39 alkemann lqdice__: well the best would proably be to do an acl tree
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:39 lqdice__ alkemann: for each folder?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:39 Kitara lqdice__: both not working
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:39 lqdice__ it would be nice if it could
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:40 lqdice__ it would be nice if it could just enumerate the folders if i give access to the file.. so if the file gets moved they still have access to it etc..
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:40 alkemann lqdice__: well files too. thing is that u dont need an acl tree = file tree cause the default is deny for all and there is inheritance in the acl
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:41 SteffenGoertz how can i link to files in the webroot/files direcotry
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:41 alkemann . /files
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:41 alkemann $html->link('/files/thing.png', 'thing');
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:42 lqdice__ alkemann: but what i mean is .. if i give someone access to /Programs/SomeProgram/Version 2.0/Windows_Install.exe they should at the first page see /Programs then have to click through like a regular directory
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:42 alkemann why force ppl to click more times then they need to?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 lqdice__ its going to be a lot of files
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 alkemann and the way it works if you only have access to a leaf, you dont have access to the root
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 lqdice__ right
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 lqdice__ thats why i didnt think ACL would be right for this
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 lqdice__ what I could possibly do is just have a Folder hasMany Folders and hasMany Files
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:43 alkemann so if a user only have acces to that file, he doesnt have access to the /programs folder and shouldnt even know it exists (imho)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:44 alkemann lqdice__: dont differentiate between files and folders
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:44 alkemann Node hasMany Node . and a node can be a file or a folder (or even both)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:44 lqdice__ alkemann: he has access to the Programs folder.. but he will only see the /SomeProgram/Version 2.0/Windows_Install.exe in his tree
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:44 lqdice__ alkemann: they have different meta data though
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 alkemann 2 behaviors
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 lqdice__ one if you click it d/l's the other just opens it up
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 alkemann 1 mode
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 alkemann model*
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 lqdice__ thats not a big deal im not worried about that.. im just wondering if doing node hasMany nodes is too heavy
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 lqdice__ thats why i was thinking tree behaviour might be better
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:45 alkemann better than folders hasmany folders and folders hasMany files imho
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:46 lqdice__ i mean .. nodes hasmany nodes VS tree behaviour
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:46 alkemann lqdice__: thats what i mean Node actsAs Tree and have 2 behaviors for the node for file vs folder
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:47 alkemann or u can have Folder actsAs Tree, Folder hasMany Files and Files actsAs Ordered (my behavior)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:47 lqdice__ alkemann: do you think w/ this method it will be easy enough to enumerate the entire tree to display?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:48 sokar007 hi, in cakephp manual http://book.cakephp.org/view/303/file-fields $this->data['Documents']['submittedfile'] is array with few few fields. i tried it and i have only filename - why ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:48 alkemann only have rights on files, only show folders where user has files with read rights ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:48 lqdice__ or rather . i just want to get the children of a node.. is that easy enough? so if they are at /SomeProgram folder i just want to show its children
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:48 lqdice__ yes
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:49 lqdice__ so if I am in /SomeProgram and it has 30 folders w/ 30 files each but the user only has access to 1 file.. it should only show that 1 folder
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:49 alkemann the good thing about this last method is you can easily only show files for one folder at a time, but show the entire folder structure (like windows)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:49 lqdice__ which method.. folder actsAs Tree, folder hasMany Files ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:49 alkemann yes
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:50 alkemann u do $tree = $this->Folder->find('threaded'); $folder = $this->Folder->find($id); the first with recursive -1 and the second with 1
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:50 lqdice__ well I also have to put conditions to make sure the user has access to it (which is the part im worried about)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:51 alkemann it will be a little complicated, but should be doable
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:51 lqdice__ the SQL will have to dig all the way to the leaf and if I have access to the leaf, give access to the parent
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:51 lqdice__ basically
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:51 lqdice__ have you seen anyone do something like this before?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:52 Ins|de hi there, i could change layout files with $this->layout variable right? can i do it on app_controller or just on the extended controller?
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:52 alkemann lqdice__: not that i recall atm
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:52 lqdice__ Ins|de: you should be able to do it in app_controller beforeFilter
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:53 alkemann can even do it in view
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:53 lqdice__ alkemann: this will def be interesting
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:53 alkemann i look forward to seein how it turns out :)
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:53 alkemann you should try to make behavior for it so it can be reused
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:53 Ins|de lqdice__, i did it, changed from default to backoffice, and when i do $this->layout = 'backoffice'; it does not work..
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:54 lqdice__ alkemann: this is for a file upload utility... it will even need to be able to sync back up from the filesystem so if someone drops a file in the system it enumerates it into the database
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:54 lqdice__ i dont want it to run directly off the filesystem though
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:54 lqdice__ i guess I could though
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:55 alkemann u can save the files in the DB even
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:55 lqdice__ well I will still need the d/b to manage the access so it has to be in the db
# Aug 7th 2008, 07:55 lqdice__ these files are gonna be huge.. up to 2gb