Log message #969211

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# Aug 15th 2009, 06:34 ADmad ya
# Aug 15th 2009, 06:34 alkemann oh by Jon
# Aug 15th 2009, 06:34 ADmad yup suddenly people are too interested in that topic :)
# Aug 15th 2009, 06:33 alkemann another one?
# Aug 15th 2009, 06:31 ADmad alkemann: you checked this other canonical helper http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/canonical-helper ?
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:29 markstory plus you can use shouty <HTML>
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:29 alkemann many smarter and more versed in the issue than me has written volumes about it on the web, that im sure is just a google away if you are really interested
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:27 ADmad and you want html4strict becuase ?
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:27 alkemann what you "like" is not relevant to the issue
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:26 ADmad whats bad about prefering stuff like lowercase tagnames and attributes, tags closing with /> etc
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:24 alkemann a lot of people use bad tools. because they like them or are used to them. thats fine. tool makers should make good tools though
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:22 markstory most do
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:21 ADmad i just go with 1.0
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:20 markstory not like xhtml 1.1 ever worked.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:20 ADmad until that new road is fully paved and ready to tread i will stick to my dead end
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:19 markstory xhtml5 lives on!
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:18 ADmad give an option, yes would like that.. go back, i would say no
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 alkemann since we are sorta on the issue, can we make the helper go back to html4strict?
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 poLK I dislike mozilla way how they hacked view class
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 markstory need another map var.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 markstory poLK: that setup conflicts with passing params to helpers.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 alkemann u tell cake to put a different class instance in $html variable, but intention is that this new helper extends the one one expects to be there?
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:16 poLK declared to use in controller by $helpers = array('Html' => 'Canonical', 'Form', ...);
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:15 poLK alkemann: no, to overwrite meta() method in CanonicalHelper extending HtmlHelper, and then use it from views like $html->meta('canonical')
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:13 alkemann to add one method to do one line of code?
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:13 poLK I still think this way for replacing core helpers would be sweet
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:13 alkemann i dont think that helper is a reasonable solution to this issue. poLK gave two much better using the existing html helper
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:12 poLK (time to chat about ... again'
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:12 poLK markstory: probably time to chat about var $helpers = array('Html' => 'Canonical'); (class CanonicalHelper extends HtmlHelper, and then $html->meta('canonical'))
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:10 markstory but making a helper is a reasonable solution.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:09 poLK +1
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:08 markstory well I think the article is fine as it, making a separate helper is a bit overkill, you can do it with HtmlHelper right now, just not as nice.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:06 alkemann so get the patch in and tell the guy to rewrite the article as a tutorial? linking to the commit for people that cant wait
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:03 markstory right.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:02 alkemann the words "just" and "to" makes a big difference in that sentence ;)
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:02 markstory which I've been doing as I find them.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:02 markstory just have to document the options.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:02 markstory nuh uh.
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:02 alkemann well yea, except this sort of api gets hidden in the Api
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:01 markstory yeah
# Aug 14th 2009, 16:00 poLK I would prefer extension of meta, it uses hardcoded array $types (rss/atom/icon/keywords/description) already