Log message #891554

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# Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 ProLoser|Work anywho, i like giving up the tools, and letting people choose how and where to apply them
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 Phally right, that is a nice alternative use of such a thing
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 ProLoser|Work or abstractly measured pricing
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 ProLoser|Work there are also aspects of a cart that is just a pain and a h alf to hack out of a prebuilt one, such as composite products
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 ProLoser|Work but you cannot checkout or buy anything from them
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:17 ProLoser|Work Phally: the intention is that we haven't seen it so we don't know, but the best ideas are the ones no one's done before
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:17 Phally the paginator helper is loaded in the controller when something is paginated
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:16 Phally but look at the paginator i.e.
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:15 ProLoser|Work or only having a checkout screen
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:14 ProLoser|Work ya, i like the tools approach, and offering the ability to bundle them together and attach em, which would be 1 big plugin
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:14 ProLoser|Work however i figure there are so many prebuilt cart apps out there, even ones with modules, that what's the point of making another one? the one thing you don't get in those apps is the ability to build a cart on top of your own application, instead of hacking someone elsess
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:13 Phally i think you should give the user a set of tools
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:13 ProLoser|Work while he would rather go a more drupal/modular route and create a base app that you merely design plugins for
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:13 ProLoser|Work i would rather give people a set of tools that they can attach to their app
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:13 ProLoser|Work we're trying to make very versatile solutions
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:12 ProLoser|Work so you /would/ recommend placing it all in plugins?
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:12 Phally *take
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:12 Phally and how much effort does it make to create three folders and place a file in it?
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:11 Phally well you would have a good level of separation and packaging through the plugins
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:10 ProLoser|Work and would it be worth it to wrap solely a component in a plugin?
# Jul 15th 2009, 17:10 ProLoser|Work is there a reason why a plugin manager server would be made instead of one that also serves out helpers/components/behaviors?
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:48 ProLoser|Work *crickets*
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:47 techno-geek ProLoser|Work, see this post http://www.pseudocoder.com/archives/2009/05/29/connecting-cakephp-plugins/
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:46 ProLoser|Work or /that/ lol
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:46 techno-geek and it was in the form of the cakephp plugin conventions?
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:46 ProLoser|Work on their own they don't make sense techno
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:46 techno-geek what if there was a standardized way of package, managing, and releasing code?
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:46 ProLoser|Work although we may want to digress to the original point of the arguments
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:45 techno-geek am I wrong in the assumption that a Cake plugin can be as small or as large as you want it to be? A simple component all that way to a full mini app?
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:45 ProLoser|Work lol
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:45 alkemann possibly :)
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 ProLoser|Work however the sorta question we had would be best commented on by you guys
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 techno-geek oh burn :P
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 gwoo because you were too hungover
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 ProLoser|Work i'm happy to relocate back to our own channel
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 gwoo alkemann: you probably missed my keynote
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 gwoo yes
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 ProLoser|Work gwoo said it'd be good to reserve this channel for advanced discussion not only about bakery development but about the development of components IN the bakery
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:44 alkemann gwoo has been playing forkmaster and drinking for a week. dont start listening to him before earliest next week
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:43 techno-geek we are getting wrecked
# Jul 15th 2009, 16:43 ProLoser|Work we actually moved the discussion to our own channel initially