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# May 29th 2021, 21:21 etibor ooo
# May 29th 2021, 21:21 kevin.pfeifer so till the end of 2022
# May 29th 2021, 21:21 kevin.pfeifer well 3 years counting from 16 Dec 2019
# May 29th 2021, 21:20 kevin.pfeifer but could be that the core team has decided on some other roadmpa
# May 29th 2021, 21:20 etibor so its means having 3 years for prepare for upgrading
# May 29th 2021, 21:20 kevin.pfeifer so you get 3 years of security fixes for 3.x
# May 29th 2021, 21:19 kevin.pfeifer https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/releases/tag/4.0.0
# May 29th 2021, 21:19 kevin.pfeifer 4.0.0 release on 16 Dec 2019
# May 29th 2021, 21:18 slackebot is released. Our hope is that these time frames give you and your teams ample time to plan and execute an upgrade.
# May 29th 2021, 21:18 kevin.pfeifer Our current plans would make the 3.x to 4.0 upgrade relatively easy. Because of this we don’t currently see many reasons to continue doing 3.x feature releases. This would make 3.6 the last 3.x with the possibility of 3.7 happening. If there is enough community interest in it. Furthermore, we plan on doing supporting 3.x with: • Bug fixes for _18 months_ after 4.0.0. • Security fixes for _36 months_ after 4.0.0
# May 29th 2021, 21:18 kevin.pfeifer https://bakery.cakephp.org/2017/06/23/upcoming-cakephp-roadmap.html
# May 29th 2021, 21:18 kevin.pfeifer well if we look in here
# May 29th 2021, 21:18 etibor sounds not good
# May 29th 2021, 21:17 kevin.pfeifer the fact that cakephp2 just now is going EOL
# May 29th 2021, 21:17 kevin.pfeifer well
# May 29th 2021, 21:16 etibor do you think cake3 will be supported its longer?
# May 29th 2021, 21:08 etibor okey you right no offtopic
# May 29th 2021, 21:07 etibor so i trust i will be able to use cake3 for a while
# May 29th 2021, 21:07 kevin.pfeifer lets continue in a thread or in a DM to not distrub all others here in the support channel, ok^^
# May 29th 2021, 21:07 etibor and i remember that i gave up my first app without finishing, and began everything from scratch
# May 29th 2021, 21:06 etibor i began my first app in cake2 the time when it was the master version
# May 29th 2021, 21:05 etibor just one thing i worry a lot, its the upgrading to 4, my application becames huge, i am afraid it will not possible to convert simle way
# May 29th 2021, 21:05 kevin.pfeifer working solutions (even badly designed/implemented) are better than no solutions :) but if you already know that there is a “better way” then you can at least take the time later on to improve and refactor your app
# May 29th 2021, 21:04 etibor sometimes my solution are not the most smooth and elegant but keep working to learn
# May 29th 2021, 21:03 etibor when page display error during
# May 29th 2021, 21:03 etibor hahah i did it live application, sometimes users became crazy
# May 29th 2021, 21:02 kevin.pfeifer thats one thing i hoped i learned sooner than later
# May 29th 2021, 21:02 kevin.pfeifer are you using tests already? :)
# May 29th 2021, 21:02 etibor luckily i am able to handle most of the things
# May 29th 2021, 21:01 etibor yes i have the same feeling that its gonna be never perfect
# May 29th 2021, 21:01 kevin.pfeifer whichever it is it that moment
# May 29th 2021, 21:01 kevin.pfeifer there will always be something that makes problems with your app, its just the fact, that you need to analyse it and try to fix it in a “better way”
# May 29th 2021, 21:01 etibor thank you Kevin you really cool
# May 29th 2021, 21:00 kevin.pfeifer i had many revelations over the last 2 years working with cake like custom Bake Templates, using template elements as much as possible, the new Dependency Injection Container etc. The “deep knowledge” just comes over time so don’t stress yourself too hard ;)
# May 29th 2021, 20:58 etibor its almost the first time that i use this technique
# May 29th 2021, 20:57 etibor probably its because its uses elements, and a component
# May 29th 2021, 20:57 kevin.pfeifer sure there are many things to learn but thats coding in general in my opinion :) There will always be more to learn because we thankfully don’t stand still.
# May 29th 2021, 20:56 etibor lot of time i feel i only on the top of the iceberg
# May 29th 2021, 20:55 etibor you have soo deep knowledge, i wish i could have such as
# May 29th 2021, 20:54 kevin.pfeifer i would guess it depends on which helper it uses
# May 29th 2021, 20:53 etibor just dont understand this really, because other times the error message displayed correctly in a collactable div