Log message #4225935

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# Feb 10th 2020, 13:01 david ouch... I was reading the 2.X documentation instead of 3.x
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:59 david I am trying to save without validation, using this: $this->Model->save($entity, ['validate' => false]) I have tried with this too: $this->Model->save($entity, false) But validation is triggered in both cases. Am I doing something wrong?
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:57 david Morning
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:12 lpj145 yes i know.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:12 lpj145 first fact about issue, cakephp continue to evolve on way like full framework, at this time, many developers, business is changing way, micro, realtime, stream, nothing this can be found on cakephp..
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:11 rochasmarcelo By the way are you familiar with https://github.com/FriendsOfCake/awesome-cakephp?
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:09 lpj145 i love so much cakephp, i'm asking about out from here, but, at this time working a plugin to improve apis.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:09 rochasmarcelo I think the community is open to opinions and suggestions
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:08 rochasmarcelo I would like to know more what issues you are having and what things you things CakePHP should have
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:08 lpj145 is a good time to give opinion... cake core team is open to hear opinions and is new....
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:07 rochasmarcelo I have an impression that in Brasil people have used more Facebook groups than slack just because is more common.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:07 lpj145 :D
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:06 slackebot ask to have an easy way to implement an API and there are many good plugins for it.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:06 rochasmarcelo Hi @lpj145 it is sad to hear this, I'm also from Brazil. It's okay to have different option about framework and this is a good place to discuss about CakePHP. I see that CakePHP has always focused to help start applications faster and grow consistent, but this may not be good for everyone and it's okay. I would say that many changes people would see in CakePHP or any other framework could be archived using existing or new plugins, some
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:45 challgren I personally dont see the issue with a checkbox being away from the label, I could see that where there is multiple but not on an active/inactive
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:41 neon1024 They must respect your knowledge as they picked you for the project
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 :)
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 Knowingly creating bad software because someone wants it to be bad and not collaborating with them to make it better just confuses me
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 ..but you’re a developer, your expertise in UI should be greater than your client in most instances, so guiding them on good working practises and UI is part of the role I think
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:34 challgren I’m just following what the client wants http://webapplayers.com/inspinia_admin-v2.9.3/form_basic.html
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:33 neon1024 As they’re related items as part of a set
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:33 neon1024 The label should be close to the input imho
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:32 neon1024 At least right align the label so I don’t have to look right across and try to remember what the label is when I’m looking at the input
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:32 neon1024 Man that’s ugly
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:24 challgren Yay!!!!!
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:19 ndm If you want to check whether it was a non-change? Sure, that should work.
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:17 birdy247 so we would need to getOriginal and compare?
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:17 birdy247 Right cool
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 ndm yes
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 birdy247 cake 3
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 birdy247 would property be marked as dirty even if the value was not changing
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 $this->save($entity)
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 and then $entity->property = 1;
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 If $ get an entity
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:14 ndm Single checkbox with a custom template
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:08 challgren Ok so do the multiple doesnt work the form fails validation
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:59 ndm *global templates
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:59 ndm If you're not messing too much with the global labels, then using custom HTML and non-`control()` inputs should give you pretty much free hand for solving complicated/special cases... also sometimes there's no way around overriding templates on a per-control basis.
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:56 challgren I think my problem is I learned html way to early and didn't evolve to this HTML 5 stuff
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:55 ndm I'd probably start smoking again if I also had to write the docs for all the stuff :grimacing:
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:54 challgren That is until I want to wrap the checkbox in a div