Log message #4225926

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# Feb 10th 2020, 12:08 lpj145 is a good time to give opinion... cake core team is open to hear opinions and is new....
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:07 rochasmarcelo I have an impression that in Brasil people have used more Facebook groups than slack just because is more common.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:07 lpj145 :D
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:06 slackebot ask to have an easy way to implement an API and there are many good plugins for it.
# Feb 10th 2020, 12:06 rochasmarcelo Hi @lpj145 it is sad to hear this, I'm also from Brazil. It's okay to have different option about framework and this is a good place to discuss about CakePHP. I see that CakePHP has always focused to help start applications faster and grow consistent, but this may not be good for everyone and it's okay. I would say that many changes people would see in CakePHP or any other framework could be archived using existing or new plugins, some
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:45 challgren I personally dont see the issue with a checkbox being away from the label, I could see that where there is multiple but not on an active/inactive
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:41 neon1024 They must respect your knowledge as they picked you for the project
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 :)
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 Knowingly creating bad software because someone wants it to be bad and not collaborating with them to make it better just confuses me
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:40 neon1024 ..but you’re a developer, your expertise in UI should be greater than your client in most instances, so guiding them on good working practises and UI is part of the role I think
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:34 challgren I’m just following what the client wants http://webapplayers.com/inspinia_admin-v2.9.3/form_basic.html
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:33 neon1024 As they’re related items as part of a set
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:33 neon1024 The label should be close to the input imho
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:32 neon1024 At least right align the label so I don’t have to look right across and try to remember what the label is when I’m looking at the input
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:32 neon1024 Man that’s ugly
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:24 challgren Yay!!!!!
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:19 ndm If you want to check whether it was a non-change? Sure, that should work.
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:17 birdy247 so we would need to getOriginal and compare?
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:17 birdy247 Right cool
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 ndm yes
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 birdy247 cake 3
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:16 birdy247 would property be marked as dirty even if the value was not changing
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 $this->save($entity)
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 and then $entity->property = 1;
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:15 birdy247 If $ get an entity
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:14 ndm Single checkbox with a custom template
# Feb 10th 2020, 11:08 challgren Ok so do the multiple doesnt work the form fails validation
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:59 ndm *global templates
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:59 ndm If you're not messing too much with the global labels, then using custom HTML and non-`control()` inputs should give you pretty much free hand for solving complicated/special cases... also sometimes there's no way around overriding templates on a per-control basis.
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:56 challgren I think my problem is I learned html way to early and didn't evolve to this HTML 5 stuff
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:55 ndm I'd probably start smoking again if I also had to write the docs for all the stuff :grimacing:
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:54 challgren That is until I want to wrap the checkbox in a div
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:54 challgren It works as a dirty hack around but as of right now it's not documented well
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:52 ndm Maybe there's also a cleaner way, ie not appropriating the multi checkbox stuff, but I'd have to look into that a little deeper... getting this horizontal stuff to work wasn't easy
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:52 challgren Damn thing is making me chain smoke
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:51 challgren Oh yeah duh!
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:51 ndm Use a single option?
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:50 challgren The label is fixed
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:50 challgren Bad, I just want a single checkbox there
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:49 ndm I don't know if that's good or nah :upside_down_face:
# Feb 10th 2020, 10:48 slackebot <challgren>