Log message #4153172

# At Username Text
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:59 neon1024 As I’m not really creating a Pen
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:59 neon1024 Then I could call that anywhere in my application whenever I wanted to create a Pen
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:59 neon1024 ..and leave the dependent calculation wrapped in a class or single method
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:59 neon1024 So that I could call a method with some data, and get back the objects I need
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:58 neon1024 If anything I would try and abstract the dependent nature into it’s own class at least
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:58 neon1024 Yeah, but there is no need to use events for that, as you’ll surely know that when you create your Pen
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:58 birdy247 A Ruler can only be saved after a Pen. Not all Pens create Rulers
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:57 neon1024 Then I would think about front-loading the problem, to manage the conditional nature earlier, so I could save everything in one go
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:57 neon1024 This scenario makes me stop and think, this is a code smell. Where does my software design stink enough that I need so many dependent events
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:55 birdy247 I would also like Rulers to be returned if they were saved
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:55 birdy247 actually I didnt explain this well.. A "Paper" is saved.. in the afterSave of paper, an event is emitted. This event then saves a Pen, which may then save a Ruler in the afterSave. Pens are then returned to the "Paper" in the event result
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:53 neon1024 So if anything was observing that event it could get both entities in the event subject
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:53 neon1024 Then I could pass both the Pen and Ruler with the event
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:53 birdy247 ah right, which contains the Pen id?
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:52 birdy247 I thought about stamping some guid on the records to show they are linked, and then performing a find with any records matching these guids
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:52 neon1024 So in the afterSave if a Ruler was created, I would emit an event there
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:52 neon1024 I would use an event
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:51 birdy247 The result gets passed elsewhere
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:51 birdy247 @tim Its not for display
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:42 tim @birdy247 Where/why do you need to know this? If it's just for displaying purposes, use FlashComponent
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:41 tim I'm unsure, we don't use bake here so I'm not that familiar with it :P
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:40 ra7bi Okay i will try now So by baking that structure cake will create for me that forms ?
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:39 tim The tables are fine (ideally it should be called fishes_shipments but you can just set the name you're using in your association)
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:38 ra7bi @tim can you give simple example how tables should look like? Currently I've Fishes Shipments Shipments_fishes ( shipment_id,fish_id)
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:36 tim @ra7bi You need to save your shipment before the shipment_fishes, otherwise it will have no ID and thus can't put that in the pivot table. If you use proper associations and form keys/names, it should all do this for you
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:35 ra7bi I don't really know
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:34 birdy247 Is there a cake way to do this
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:34 ra7bi I need to store shipment_fishes before shipment get stored
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:34 birdy247 The controller needs to know if a Pen and Ruler was created, or just a Pen
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:33 birdy247 In a controller, this initiates a save for a Pen, when a Pen is saved, in the afterSave it *might* create a Ruler (depending on the type of Pen)
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:32 ra7bi So when i open add shipment i will see Shipment details (shipment table) under that User can add different fishes Finally can save the shipment, it will get stored Shipment with related fishes
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:31 ra7bi In add new shipment I've 2 forms one for shipment details and other for adding fishes the idea is I can add as much as i want of fishes for each shipment
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:29 tim Is it not stored in the jointable? What code are you using to save it
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:29 ra7bi Hopefully my question is clear , for more clarification please let me know
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:28 ra7bi Hello all , I've a case and I don't know how cakephp deals with it I've 3 tables 1: fishes 2: shipments_fishes 3: shipments When creating new shipment i store all fishes for that shipment in shipments_fishes table which contains Shipment id and fishe id The problem is how to get shipment id and still not stored in the DB
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:22 tim If you explicitly define it as a select, you'd get the same result
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:22 tim You don't need to, that's just what it uses for guesstimating what type of input it is
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:17 Magiq here for example
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:17 Magiq https://api.cakephp.org/3.6/source-class-Cake.View.Helper.FormHelper.html#1366
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:16 birdy247 Where does it force you?
# Jun 22nd 2018, 07:16 Magiq Why cakephp force to use underscore in column names ?