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Jul 11th 2017, 09:46 |
 savant |
im headed to bed |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:46 |
heter |
if u want we can discuss it on priv and i can provide u some more details if u want |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:45 |
heter |
i may found some bug on cake mailer, i ran same scripts on 2 different servers using dedicated sendgrid mailer library and it worked on both server but while im using cake mailer its throwing exception on one of them (not sure what may cause it atm) |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:44 |
savant |
about to sleep |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:43 |
heter |
@savant are u still here ? |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 |
jonasz |
each day i'm learning more ;) |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 |
savant |
no problem |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 |
jonasz |
i understand. thank you for help |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 |
savant |
the overhead is super minimal |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 |
savant |
than the inclusion of one more file in your application |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 |
savant |
its far more likely that you have a sql query that is unnecessarily joining tables which causes a slowdown in your application |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
savant |
and then that stat call will be cached by the operating system |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
savant |
since the file will be stat’d once |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
savant |
there is minimal overhead on including another file |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
jonasz |
thx, that is exactly what i was looking for ;) |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
savant |
again, as @glanceded said, elements or helpers would be better suited to this problem |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 |
savant |
which is better done at the user-level |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
savant |
its just not possible to do what you’re asking without some hokey-pokey extra logic |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
savant |
(or whatever the equivalent is |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
savant |
`echo str_replace('some_var', 'derp', $this->fetch('sidebar'))` |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
jonasz |
aha, i get u now |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
savant |
but then, why cant you just do the following |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 |
savant |
for instance |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 |
savant |
`{{some_var}}` |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 |
savant |
so we’d need to come up with some alternative syntax for embedding variables |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 |
savant |
not when you call `$this->fetch('sidebar', ['some_var' => 'derp']);` |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 |
savant |
as is, the `$some_var` is interpolated at the time of the entire template inclusion |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:08 |
savant |
lets say you want to use that element elsewhere |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:08 |
savant |
$this->start(‘some-element’); echo “derp ${some_var}“; $this->end(); |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
savant |
consider the following |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
savant |
we cant really do that |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
savant |
adding a third argument would mean interpolation |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
savant |
in order to use one |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
savant |
you dont need to share an element |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 |
jonasz |
i get your points, but still, I think adding 3rd argument to fetch(), so it acts a little bit as an element, would enrich capabilities of framework slightely. that would suit one particular case where u don't share a snipet between multiple views/layouts ;) aloso loading element is additional overhead - reading new file etc. thx for advice |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 |
savant |
(usually) |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 |
savant |
so you can trust my advice |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 |
savant |
if it helps give some strength behind my argument, I’m one of the cakephp core developers |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 |
savant |
easiest of the three to setup - just one extra file - and you can assign the output of the element to a view block if you really needed it |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 |
savant |
i would go with an element |
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Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 |
savant |
those are your options |