Log message #4050479

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# Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 jonasz each day i'm learning more ;)
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 savant no problem
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:13 jonasz i understand. thank you for help
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 savant the overhead is super minimal
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 savant than the inclusion of one more file in your application
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:12 savant its far more likely that you have a sql query that is unnecessarily joining tables which causes a slowdown in your application
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 savant and then that stat call will be cached by the operating system
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 savant since the file will be stat’d once
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 savant there is minimal overhead on including another file
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 jonasz thx, that is exactly what i was looking for ;)
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 savant again, as @glanceded said, elements or helpers would be better suited to this problem
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:11 savant which is better done at the user-level
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 savant its just not possible to do what you’re asking without some hokey-pokey extra logic
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 savant (or whatever the equivalent is
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 savant `echo str_replace('some_var', 'derp', $this->fetch('sidebar'))`
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 jonasz aha, i get u now
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 savant but then, why cant you just do the following
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:10 savant for instance
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 savant `{{some_var}}`
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 savant so we’d need to come up with some alternative syntax for embedding variables
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 savant not when you call `$this->fetch('sidebar', ['some_var' => 'derp']);`
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:09 savant as is, the `$some_var` is interpolated at the time of the entire template inclusion
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:08 savant lets say you want to use that element elsewhere
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:08 savant $this->start(‘some-element’); echo “derp ${some_var}“; $this->end();
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 savant consider the following
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 savant we cant really do that
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 savant adding a third argument would mean interpolation
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 savant in order to use one
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 savant you dont need to share an element
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:07 jonasz i get your points, but still, I think adding 3rd argument to fetch(), so it acts a little bit as an element, would enrich capabilities of framework slightely. that would suit one particular case where u don't share a snipet between multiple views/layouts ;) aloso loading element is additional overhead - reading new file etc. thx for advice
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 savant (usually)
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 savant so you can trust my advice
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 savant if it helps give some strength behind my argument, I’m one of the cakephp core developers
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:03 savant easiest of the three to setup - just one extra file - and you can assign the output of the element to a view block if you really needed it
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant i would go with an element
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant those are your options
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant - use a helper
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant - use an element
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant - use a view cell
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant if you want conditional output, you’ll need to either:
# Jul 11th 2017, 09:02 savant that value can be a single character or a lot of html