Log message #4047456

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# Jul 3rd 2017, 16:37 admad no need to set locale individually for all data time classes. Just set `I18n::locale('en_GB')`
# Jul 3rd 2017, 16:18 inoas ndm what do you set Time::setDefaultLocale() etc to?
# Jul 3rd 2017, 16:11 admad @ndm yup it is a bug
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:56 ndm @ionas No one said it would be easy :slightly_smiling_face: My configurations looked similar, but by now I'm using `i18nFormat()` wherever possible, so that most of the time all I have to do is set the locale.
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:42 inoas 50 years from now I cannot imagine that.
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:42 inoas right now here in germany small and medium sized "non-direct-customer" companies still refuse to hire people that only speak English
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:41 jeremyharris :)
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:41 inoas ...o0O(and after that they lived happily ever after)
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:41 inoas lets make the trade: we use the broken (American :p) English and you use the broken (Metric) date/dimension thingies :p?
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:40 inoas jeremy ;-P
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:40 inoas ndm care to share your configuration? thats what I do but it feels strange https://gist.github.com/inoas/c8010068661352e0d51cdc985e2f869a
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:40 jeremyharris ouch. as an american, I take offense. our shitty datetime format is the corner stone of our shitty democracy!
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:38 ndm Well, that's just a matter of configuration, my datetimes are using non-retarded formatting ;) But yeah, as far as debug kit concerned, it's pretty much a non-issue.
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:36 inoas neon1024 :+1:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:36 inoas ndm I am saying its a non-issue. If we want to be inclusive we have to fix default datetimes to be ISO instead of english-american :p
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:36 neon1024 Perhaps an RFC ticket to remove the left overs?
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:35 ndm @ionas Ok, it read as if you thought I'd refer to the source... I'd tend to agree that it seems that no one really seems to want it translated.
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:35 neon1024 I guess just an omission @ndm :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:35 neon1024 :coffee:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:34 inoas anyway I will stfu
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:34 inoas and we cannot get the doc blocks translated reasonably
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:34 inoas what I am saying is that doc blocks matter the most, then book documentation, then at some point debug kit locales ;-P
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:34 neon1024 Translations !== Source code
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:34 neon1024 Sigh, you’re stuck on source code today inoas
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:33 inoas neon1024 I would welcome to have uuids in source code comments and some kind of uber-tool that translates all doc blocks on the fly :p
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:33 neon1024 If they help make things more accessible for non-english speakers
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:33 neon1024 But for translations, any contributed translations are a positive thing in my book :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:33 inoas ndm I know. I am just saying - as a "german motherlanguage dude" - that I could live without those and because no one complained so far maybe we all can and reduce maintainance/costs
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:32 inoas Anyway you don't have to agree. I rather have a consistent output that is English than outdated locales - luckly this is in bootstrap.php ;) ini_set('intl.default_locale', Configure::read('App.defaultLocale')) (so we all have by default some kind of English to talk to each other)
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:32 ndm @ionas I'm not referring to the source code, but to the translation files that ship with the plugin :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:32 neon1024 I had a good chat with @brettl and @steinkel about non-english language source code. If I recall the consensus was much the same as yours @inoas - that English source code was easiest for collaboration
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:31 neon1024 Just chance to have been born in an English speaking country, certainly
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 inoas you are not glad because you are not affected anyway :p
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 inoas and that no one noticed so far tells a story
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 neon1024 Well, then I am glad it is not your plugin :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 inoas that includes debugkit IMHO as it is pretty low level
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 inoas The point I am making is: for collaboration it is probably better to stick to one language
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 neon1024 Well ndm wasn’t talking about source code
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:30 inoas the doc blocks at least ,-)
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:29 inoas I mean the SOURCE ;-) not the messages
# Jul 3rd 2017, 15:29 neon1024 Pretty sure all the core messages are wrapped with `__()`