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May 30th 2016, 13:20 |
 dereuromark |
hehe, well he is right ;) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:20 |
barduck |
or an attempt at it |
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May 30th 2016, 13:20 |
barduck |
and it was a joke |
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May 30th 2016, 13:19 |
barduck |
dereuromark: that was a response to hmicâ??s "but in a laravel channel the answer would be as obviousâ? comment |
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May 30th 2016, 13:18 |
dereuromark |
"always believed the average quality of the people in the cake community is usually higher than other frameworks" what does that have anything to do with you not using cake as most people would for this job? ;) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
dereuromark |
not for server costs |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
hmic |
still they use their framework of choice, they know their tools and like them. - there are task they dont fit, but just because the task is small an easy, why would i not use the tool im most familar with: |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
dereuromark |
the most money goes out the window the the developers time |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
dereuromark |
the quickest tool is the right tool |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
barduck |
dereuromark: I always thought that the saying was â??use the right tool for the job" |
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May 30th 2016, 13:16 |
barduck |
I always believed the average quality of the people in the cake community is usually higher than other frameworks |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
dereuromark |
use the quickest tool at hand. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
dereuromark |
and it always will be the same answer, because it is the correct answer ;) if it makes it fast (which it does). |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
hmic |
but in a laravel channel the answer would be as obvious |
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May 30th 2016, 13:14 |
hmic |
probably |
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May 30th 2016, 13:14 |
barduck |
The cake channel is probably not the best place to ask my original questions, I could have guessed the answer would be â??just use cakeâ? :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:12 |
barduck |
well, maybe. But for the next time and the times that follows, having more tools at your disposal is never a bad thing |
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May 30th 2016, 13:11 |
hmic |
barduck: i would guess that the simple task you are talking about could be finished if you would have just used cake like ever... |
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May 30th 2016, 13:10 |
barduck |
@hmic: yes, thatâ??s granted. I am in the phase when I still search for that what pleases me for this. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
hmic |
barduck: as i said, use whatever pleases you. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
barduck |
â?¦like previous times :slightly_smiling_face: |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
barduck |
so, I will continue looking for one. And use cake again if I donâ??t find anything |
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May 30th 2016, 13:08 |
barduck |
I prefer a scalpel instead of an axe when I need a scalpel, even if the axe can do similar tasks |
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May 30th 2016, 13:08 |
barduck |
yes, that assuming that there isnâ??t anything more suitable for the task. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:07 |
hmic |
if it solves your problem, that 10% code might very well be worth it :p |
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May 30th 2016, 13:07 |
hmic |
barduck: i dont get the reason why you would feel bad about it |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
barduck |
I simply donâ??t feel comfortable installed full blown framework with code which 90% of it I wonâ??t use. Does that make me a bad developer ? :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
saei |
cake use namespace that means just use neccessery class |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
hmic |
however, choose whatever pleases you. i'd personally stay with cake, no matter what. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
barduck |
so, I guess that answer is â??noâ? :slightly_smiling_face: |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
burzum2 |
wordpress is something i hopefully will never ever have to touch :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
hmic |
but you would not do that anyways :p |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
barduck |
for the same reason, I wonâ??t use wordpress for that, for example |
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May 30th 2016, 13:04 |
barduck |
I love driving semi-trailers, I feel comfortable with them, they offer solutions to real problems but I donâ??t drive them to the grocery store |
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May 30th 2016, 13:04 |
hmic |
and still: i'd just require cake and use whatever i like too. you do not need to use a full blown app template though |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
hmic |
barduck it is, to some point. as burzum2 said, the router is not, true. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
hmic |
burzum2, i did not talk about using the router without the rest, but let the router handle the request alone, not invoking a controller |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
barduck |
well, unfortunately, cake is not modular. I canâ??t not remove that parts I donâ??t need. I still need to install them, update them, worry about security, memory usage, etc |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
saei |
why you dont use cake? |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
hmic |
the task will be faster done, if you use an environment you feel comfortable in than learn anything new - though it might still be worth it |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
burzum2 |
nor is the view afaik |