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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
 dereuromark |
the most money goes out the window the the developers time |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
dereuromark |
the quickest tool is the right tool |
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May 30th 2016, 13:17 |
barduck |
dereuromark: I always thought that the saying was â??use the right tool for the job" |
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May 30th 2016, 13:16 |
barduck |
I always believed the average quality of the people in the cake community is usually higher than other frameworks |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
dereuromark |
use the quickest tool at hand. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
dereuromark |
and it always will be the same answer, because it is the correct answer ;) if it makes it fast (which it does). |
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May 30th 2016, 13:15 |
hmic |
but in a laravel channel the answer would be as obvious |
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May 30th 2016, 13:14 |
hmic |
probably |
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May 30th 2016, 13:14 |
barduck |
The cake channel is probably not the best place to ask my original questions, I could have guessed the answer would be â??just use cakeâ? :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:12 |
barduck |
well, maybe. But for the next time and the times that follows, having more tools at your disposal is never a bad thing |
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May 30th 2016, 13:11 |
hmic |
barduck: i would guess that the simple task you are talking about could be finished if you would have just used cake like ever... |
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May 30th 2016, 13:10 |
barduck |
@hmic: yes, thatâ??s granted. I am in the phase when I still search for that what pleases me for this. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
hmic |
barduck: as i said, use whatever pleases you. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
barduck |
â?¦like previous times :slightly_smiling_face: |
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May 30th 2016, 13:09 |
barduck |
so, I will continue looking for one. And use cake again if I donâ??t find anything |
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May 30th 2016, 13:08 |
barduck |
I prefer a scalpel instead of an axe when I need a scalpel, even if the axe can do similar tasks |
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May 30th 2016, 13:08 |
barduck |
yes, that assuming that there isnâ??t anything more suitable for the task. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:07 |
hmic |
if it solves your problem, that 10% code might very well be worth it :p |
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May 30th 2016, 13:07 |
hmic |
barduck: i dont get the reason why you would feel bad about it |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
barduck |
I simply donâ??t feel comfortable installed full blown framework with code which 90% of it I wonâ??t use. Does that make me a bad developer ? :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
saei |
cake use namespace that means just use neccessery class |
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May 30th 2016, 13:06 |
hmic |
however, choose whatever pleases you. i'd personally stay with cake, no matter what. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
barduck |
so, I guess that answer is â??noâ? :slightly_smiling_face: |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
burzum2 |
wordpress is something i hopefully will never ever have to touch :) |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
hmic |
but you would not do that anyways :p |
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May 30th 2016, 13:05 |
barduck |
for the same reason, I wonâ??t use wordpress for that, for example |
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May 30th 2016, 13:04 |
barduck |
I love driving semi-trailers, I feel comfortable with them, they offer solutions to real problems but I donâ??t drive them to the grocery store |
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May 30th 2016, 13:04 |
hmic |
and still: i'd just require cake and use whatever i like too. you do not need to use a full blown app template though |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
hmic |
barduck it is, to some point. as burzum2 said, the router is not, true. |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
hmic |
burzum2, i did not talk about using the router without the rest, but let the router handle the request alone, not invoking a controller |
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May 30th 2016, 13:03 |
barduck |
well, unfortunately, cake is not modular. I canâ??t not remove that parts I donâ??t need. I still need to install them, update them, worry about security, memory usage, etc |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
saei |
why you dont use cake? |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
hmic |
the task will be faster done, if you use an environment you feel comfortable in than learn anything new - though it might still be worth it |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
burzum2 |
nor is the view afaik |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
burzum2 |
hmic the router is not a split |
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May 30th 2016, 13:02 |
hmic |
well, use the parts you need. most of the time you dont need all of them, do you? :p |
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May 30th 2016, 13:01 |
barduck |
@hmic: because as much as I absolutely love cake. It seems overkill for this task |
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May 30th 2016, 13:01 |
hmic |
you can setup the router to reply to a request streight |
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May 30th 2016, 13:01 |
hmic |
barduck: why not just *dont* use the things cake provides? |
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May 30th 2016, 13:00 |
barduck |
can anyone suggest any super lightweight php framework for just templating/layout/routing for static content that doesnâ??t require database or other bells and whistles that cake provides? |
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May 30th 2016, 12:58 |
saei |
i think yes,you can |