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Jan 30th 2014, 04:09 |
markstory |
voycey: so you put the inputs inside the label elements? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:09 |
voycey |
I just leave it to the UX bods |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:09 |
BackEndCoder |
so yes, to answer your orignal question. i wasn't aware that labels were special. and i will now try and use the labels provided with the cake form helper and not overide them |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:09 |
voycey |
I think we do a mix when its quite obvious |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:09 |
voycey |
cake produces good html for it - its all about RAD after all - we mostly create our own labels around it on the project we have done if we use them - otherwise we use placeholders |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
markstory |
I sometimes forget what I'm supposed to put in the fields. |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
BackEndCoder |
i didn't even know |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
BackEndCoder |
as they do clicky stuff |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
BackEndCoder |
and why you should use the ones inside cake |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
markstory |
I dislike placeholders with no label personally |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:08 |
BackEndCoder |
see now i get it |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:07 |
voycey |
We dont often use labels for some form fields but use placeholders aswell but mark is right - labels should always be clickable to bring focus to the field |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:07 |
BackEndCoder |
but mark. i'm always trying to improve. and i seem to fail on the simple things i will look into trying to code in a better standard. thank you |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
BackEndCoder |
i do use labels tho.. i just don't let cake make them for me |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
voycey |
Urgh - doesnt anyone elses skype on Linux freeze and crash silently? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
BackEndCoder |
and i should start using them properlu |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
BackEndCoder |
but fair enough. there is clearly a reason why labels are there |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
markstory |
In the usability tests I've seen/done many people click the labels instead of fields. |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
beakman |
... |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
BackEndCoder |
then i guess people that use my websites shouldn't use screenreaders |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 |
markstory |
Especially if you are using a screenreader |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
markstory |
labels make forms easier to fill out for sure. |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
BackEndCoder |
or the data sent inside the form |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
markstory |
rly? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
BackEndCoder |
labels make no difference to the forms |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
markstory |
but then you have to link up the ids by hand |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
BackEndCoder |
i always normally disable the outer div |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 |
BackEndCoder |
if it was required, i would do them manually just outside |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 |
markstory |
so how do people know what the fields are for? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 |
BackEndCoder |
sorry was that a trick question? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 |
BackEndCoder |
cause i didn't want labels ? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:02 |
markstory |
BackEndCoder: why do you turn the labels off? |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:02 |
Starcraftmazter |
ic |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 |
BackEndCoder |
as i never use proper feildsets for forms |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 |
BackEndCoder |
and do them manually |
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Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 |
BackEndCoder |
in cake i normally disable labels anyway |
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Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 |
BackEndCoder |
just above it if you wish |
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Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 |
BackEndCoder |
but you can manually set a label in html |
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Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 |
BackEndCoder |
set the label, in cake its 'label'=> |
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Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 |
Starcraftmazter |
but now theres no label |
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Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 |
Starcraftmazter |
thanks BackEndCoder |