Log message #3149321

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# Jan 30th 2014, 04:07 voycey We dont often use labels for some form fields but use placeholders aswell but mark is right - labels should always be clickable to bring focus to the field
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:07 BackEndCoder but mark. i'm always trying to improve. and i seem to fail on the simple things i will look into trying to code in a better standard. thank you
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 BackEndCoder i do use labels tho.. i just don't let cake make them for me
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 voycey Urgh - doesnt anyone elses skype on Linux freeze and crash silently?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 BackEndCoder and i should start using them properlu
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 BackEndCoder but fair enough. there is clearly a reason why labels are there
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 markstory In the usability tests I've seen/done many people click the labels instead of fields.
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 beakman ...
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 BackEndCoder then i guess people that use my websites shouldn't use screenreaders
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:05 markstory Especially if you are using a screenreader
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 markstory labels make forms easier to fill out for sure.
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 BackEndCoder or the data sent inside the form
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 markstory rly?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 BackEndCoder labels make no difference to the forms
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 markstory but then you have to link up the ids by hand
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 BackEndCoder i always normally disable the outer div
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:04 BackEndCoder if it was required, i would do them manually just outside
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 markstory so how do people know what the fields are for?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 BackEndCoder sorry was that a trick question?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:03 BackEndCoder cause i didn't want labels ?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:02 markstory BackEndCoder: why do you turn the labels off?
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:02 Starcraftmazter ic
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 BackEndCoder as i never use proper feildsets for forms
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 BackEndCoder and do them manually
# Jan 30th 2014, 04:00 BackEndCoder in cake i normally disable labels anyway
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 BackEndCoder just above it if you wish
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 BackEndCoder but you can manually set a label in html
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 BackEndCoder set the label, in cake its 'label'=>
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 Starcraftmazter but now theres no label
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:59 Starcraftmazter thanks BackEndCoder
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:58 BackEndCoder try ->submit
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:58 BackEndCoder it assume its a input
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:57 Starcraftmazter wtf
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:57 Starcraftmazter rather than a submit input
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:57 Starcraftmazter BackEndCoder: new problem, if i do form->input() it creates it as a textarea
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:50 Starcraftmazter this stupid system
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:50 Starcraftmazter lol
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:50 Starcraftmazter i didnt figure it out someone else at work helped me
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:49 BackEndCoder but well done
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:49 BackEndCoder its so strange that it worked ok in the other view
# Jan 30th 2014, 03:48 Starcraftmazter its the damn dwoo thing