Log message #1477087

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# Apr 26th 2010, 17:16 ADmad no probs, keep'em coming :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:15 nurvzy Ok, I think I have enough to leave constructive feedback. Thanks ADmad for being my soundboard. =)
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:14 nurvzy I used the ajax helper alot before 1.3 came out and blew it's socks off. The article was written for 1.2 so the usage of the ajax helper seems A-OK to me.
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:13 nurvzy Well there are a few issues. One, he's modifing the core to include an extra paramter in observeField. It would be better if he just extended the AjaxHelper and applied his own logic IMHO.
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:12 ADmad i have never even used a js/ajax helper myself :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:11 ADmad for the article code content itself also i don't have an opinion. in general i don't care about JS related posts. they dont have much to do with cakephp
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:10 nurvzy Ok, will do
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:10 nurvzy Alright, well assuming we overlook the spelling/grammar issues and condesending tone, the article content seems OK. Thoughts?
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:09 ADmad leave him some feedback and see if you can get him to improve on it
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:07 nurvzy Ah, I see your point.
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:07 nurvzy Indeed, personally, if the poster doesn't have the respect for the article to read through it once/twice before submitting it shouldn't be published (ie feedback given).
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:07 ADmad english might not be the first langauge of that person and since bakery isnt internationalized yet we leave him no choice but to submit in english
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:06 ADmad hmm thats kind of a grey area i would say :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:06 nurvzy (other than code presentation)
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:05 nurvzy Or do we just focus on content, regardless of presentation?
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:05 nurvzy There are many gramatical and spelling errors througout the entire article. Is that a relavant feedback to give and hold publication?
# Apr 26th 2010, 17:04 ADmad .
# Apr 26th 2010, 16:59 nurvzy Hi, anyone around? I have a moderation question regarding the pending article http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/better-use-of-the-observefield-method .
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:56 nurvzy Yuck, I hate seeing apps like that. One of my clients handed me an app and said "fix it" the previous coder had no idea what he was doing. mysql functions all over the place, mainly in the views. Why even use a framework if you're going to do that?!
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:55 ADmad yup
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:55 nurvzy Ok, thanks. I'm currently looking at http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/image-resize-and-crop-on-the-fly and am formatting the Author PM to include suggestions for HTML helper as the crop function does not return a valid img tag. Would you agree?
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:54 ADmad and just take care that the code is of decent quality. for instance a while back a wordpress helper was published which was absolute crap. fetching data from tables using mysql_* functions. shouldn't even bother giving a response on such stuff imo.
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:53 ADmad nah no such priority, i would just give priority to the ones which need least changes to get published :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:52 nurvzy oldest* too :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:52 nurvzy Will do. As a newbie mod, Is there anything I should know that isn't documented? I've read through the guidelines as well as coding standards in trac. For instance, is there a priority order for the queue? oldets->newest?
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:47 ADmad a msg would be nice
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:44 nurvzy Indeed. Should I PM the author about the issues before removal or should I remove?
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:43 ADmad that one looks like crap anyway. If people expect their articles to be published they should alteast properly format them
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:42 nurvzy For instance, I'm looking at http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/wikkacake-using-cakephp-as-an-embedded-framework. I personally agree with ADmad about removal, but I certainly don't want to step on anyone's toes.
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:39 ADmad i think those are lying long enough to be not missed by anybody, so just dump them imo :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:38 nurvzy Wow, some pending queue submittions are written for 1.1. What is the policy about articles written for CakePHP 1.1 (and now possibly 1.2, since release of 1.3)? Do we not care about what version the article was written for?
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:35 PhpNut hi
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:34 jose_zap hi
# Apr 26th 2010, 11:33 nurvzy hi
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:54 savant it sucks
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:54 savant okay I give up on the bakery
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:53 ADmad yes you can :)
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:52 savant haha
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:52 savant pretty please?
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:52 savant can I throw out everything I currently have
# Apr 26th 2010, 01:51 ADmad real34: savant: here you can find the few specs for propsed bakery 2.0 http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki but it never got underway.. you can use it at a starting point though