Log message #1052237

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# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:22 Phally habit
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:21 Phally alkemann: yeah, but then your mailbox will be flooded with messages about the same subject
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:21 Phally the users_plugin_conversations_users isn't just a simple join table
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:21 alkemann sender_id, receiver_id, new could do that
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:20 Phally messages are marked as new, but only for the person on the receiving end
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:20 Phally inbox idea ;)
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:19 alkemann a what? heh
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:19 Phally alkemann: ah wait, i remember i did it too so i could have a more awesome mailbox
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:17 alkemann looks like a lot of overhead for a rare use case, maybe include all the needed information for the regular use case in the messages table, and then the conversation feature could be optionally added on top of it
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:15 Phally let me see how i made it again, since it was like two months ago
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:15 Phally ah well it is not a forum, a conversation is just a wrapper for the messages, say you have a behavior and someone pms you about it, but you buddy ronny has to fix it, you could eventually build in that you want to add him to that conversation, so he can read/reply on it etc
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:12 Phally hold on, let me read :p
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:12 alkemann i guess what im asking is what your thinking, cause im not getting it
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:11 alkemann like most forum scripts / apps have a message system as well, building the forum out from the message system just seems odd to me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:11 alkemann Phally: it's not about meeting bakery needs only.. and im more wondering about bloating a feature to be extensible in a direction it shouldnt need to go
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:09 alkemann one table of messages with sender_id and receiver_id seems enough for me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:09 Phally i'll delete it and make it meet bakery needs only if you like
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:08 alkemann wouldnt one of the apps using the plugin be a forum, if such were required
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:08 alkemann building an interal user to user message system to be expendable to a full forum seems odd to me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:07 Phally eventually you could even invite people to read/reply to the conversation
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:07 alkemann "defined as user to user messages." - i dont see why you have that extra layer
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 Phally well it would be less static and more expandable
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 Phally something like that yeah
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 alkemann Phally: what in that spec calls for a habtm?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:05 alkemann with a habtm between messages and users, arent u creating a meta forum?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:05 Phally http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki/spec/users/messaging
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:04 Phally those are sort of topics, which hold messages
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:03 alkemann we have a spec for that somewhere?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:03 alkemann Phally: what are conversations though?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 Phally yeah, that would be best, just keep the prefixed ones
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 alkemann so drop the tables without prefix?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 Phally not really no
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 Phally yeah, that is how it is now
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann but we cant have both i guess?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann get ur messages no matter what app ur using
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann if we are talking about the internal mail thing, i dont see a problem with that being part of the plugin and therefore shared between all
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:00 alkemann also a 'conversations' and 'users_plugin_conversations'
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:00 Phally alkemann: ah crap, haven't thought of that... messages are now for everything the same
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:58 alkemann Phally: should there be both a 'users_plugin_messages' and a bakery 'messages' table?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:36 alkemann having a little trouble starting on implementing the tests i have for the article and article pages model. need both user stuff and app flow design
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:10 Phally hehe i doubt there is