Log message #1052215

# At Username Text
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:12 alkemann i guess what im asking is what your thinking, cause im not getting it
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:11 alkemann like most forum scripts / apps have a message system as well, building the forum out from the message system just seems odd to me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:11 alkemann Phally: it's not about meeting bakery needs only.. and im more wondering about bloating a feature to be extensible in a direction it shouldnt need to go
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:09 alkemann one table of messages with sender_id and receiver_id seems enough for me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:09 Phally i'll delete it and make it meet bakery needs only if you like
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:08 alkemann wouldnt one of the apps using the plugin be a forum, if such were required
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:08 alkemann building an interal user to user message system to be expendable to a full forum seems odd to me
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:07 Phally eventually you could even invite people to read/reply to the conversation
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:07 alkemann "defined as user to user messages." - i dont see why you have that extra layer
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 Phally well it would be less static and more expandable
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 Phally something like that yeah
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:06 alkemann Phally: what in that spec calls for a habtm?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:05 alkemann with a habtm between messages and users, arent u creating a meta forum?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:05 Phally http://thechaw.com/bakery/wiki/spec/users/messaging
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:04 Phally those are sort of topics, which hold messages
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:03 alkemann we have a spec for that somewhere?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:03 alkemann Phally: what are conversations though?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 Phally yeah, that would be best, just keep the prefixed ones
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 alkemann so drop the tables without prefix?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:02 Phally not really no
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 Phally yeah, that is how it is now
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann but we cant have both i guess?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann get ur messages no matter what app ur using
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:01 alkemann if we are talking about the internal mail thing, i dont see a problem with that being part of the plugin and therefore shared between all
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:00 alkemann also a 'conversations' and 'users_plugin_conversations'
# Sep 23rd 2009, 08:00 Phally alkemann: ah crap, haven't thought of that... messages are now for everything the same
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:58 alkemann Phally: should there be both a 'users_plugin_messages' and a bakery 'messages' table?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:36 alkemann having a little trouble starting on implementing the tests i have for the article and article pages model. need both user stuff and app flow design
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:10 Phally hehe i doubt there is
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:10 Phally you could do find('weird'); which does the extract in the model, but that will keep the extract
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:10 alkemann right, and where is the api for saying you want model.n :)
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:09 Phally find('all') will always give you n.model instead of hasmany model.n
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:09 alkemann well i assume cake is constructing this result behind the scenes, seems dumb to convert one way and then back instead of just stating how u want it
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:08 Phally yeah, don't think there is a way to flip the result that way without using extract or well, extract is the best option
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:08 alkemann to get behaviour
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:07 alkemann Phally: by manual i mean i ask for the associated model's datamyself instead of recursive or containable
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:06 alkemann Phally: kinda annoying doing either an array merge or a Set::extract to create the cake expected results
# Sep 23rd 2009, 07:06 alkemann Phally: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/236643793
# Sep 23rd 2009, 05:27 alkemann hmm, yes... child could be a tutorial of the code article maybe?
# Sep 23rd 2009, 05:27 alkemann if I create a translated article (or for some other reason make a child article) should I be allowed to put my article in a different category than the parent?
# Sep 22nd 2009, 13:34 Phally that's right