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| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:27 | poluta1 | i can't modify AppModel model class attributes |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:27 | thestaff | what do you use ? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:27 | pgcd | Ok, so set::extract works great to make lists - what I can't seem to do without a foreach is having the list turned into a list of links, instead of strings... |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:28 | stevieboy | pgcd: maybe array_combine helps? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:28 | pgcd | htmlhelper->link doesn't work with arrays, does it? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:28 | JeffEmbracedDC | when using 'With' associations - is it possible to set up afterSave functions? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:29 | poluta1 | Martz: ok thank Martz.. i'am waiting :) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:29 | stevieboy | pgcd: do you see foreach as sth evil? you keep avoiding it |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:29 | pgcd | stevieboy: well, I could certainly extract both the ids and the names, but i fail to see how combining the arrays would help... |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:29 | pgcd | stevieboy: yep, i admit to being a bit wary of foreach... |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:30 | stevieboy | pgcd: lol, i cant see why. it's like the one with the guy who says "continue" is evil in loops |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:30 | JeffEmbracedDC | foreach is okay but it's usually not as fast as other loop methods . |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:30 | pgcd | stevieboy: somehow i feel i shouldn't have it in my views... |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:30 | Martz | poluta1: something like this - also read the comments in top. = 'foo'; would be the logic to grab whatever you want from Session::read() http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1267003022 |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | stevieboy | pgcd: that's just wrong,imho |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | pgcd | stevieboy: we belong to the church of "Everything should be on one line", probably =) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | JeffEmbracedDC | hey martz ... you familiar with 'with' associations for join tables? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | Martz | poluta1: and if you try and implement it and get any errors, please bin your code of what you have (app controller, app model, and any models using it) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | stevieboy | pgcd: i meant you are wrong. foreach is usefull and the right approach for that |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: i ran away from HABTM and any complex queries I'd need for them a long time ago ;) Life is too short for HABTM! ;) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:32 | JeffEmbracedDC | Martz: hah really? hmm |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:32 | pgcd | stevieboy: =) i'll use it... honestly, it's just that i'm so new to cakephp that I always expect there's a "neater" way of doing everything |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 | stevieboy | pgcd: cake helps with data retrival and so on. in the view it's mostly normal php with the vars |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 | pgcd | speed and memory usage of foreach don't worry me in this case, seeing as it's gonna be 3/4 records at most for every loop |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: yeah. I tend to make my schema now with a 3rd real model instead of a join table, so that I can add meta data, easily define complex conditions etc |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:34 | JeffEmbracedDC | Martz: well...... are you familiar with 'with' associations? which allow for added meta data and faux model access of the join table? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:34 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: the downside, which someone pointed out to me, is that mysql isnt able to "ensure integrity" of not having the same 2 foreign keys, since they are not primary keys like in a HABTM join table. However that is solveable with validaiton and checking at the PHP level |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: im aware it exists, I played with it, but I dont use it |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 | JeffEmbracedDC | Martz: Gotchya |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 | alkemann | Martz: JeffEmbracedDC when using a with I have been forced to add an id field and put it as primary key, but that has worked well |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 | pgcd | stevieboy: that is good advice - it might save me a lot of time down the road if i just *do* things instead of perusing manual api and google to see if there's something else that does it |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 | pgcd | as somebody said, sometime it's quicker to just reinvent the wheel =) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 | stevieboy | pgcd: it's always good to have an open eye. but mostly you can check the manual for the helpers provided. if you arent lucky there, try it the normal way |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 | JeffEmbracedDC | alkemann: works great in my opinion.. only downside I've come across so far.. is.. I'm not sure how you add beforeSave/afterSave/whatever functions to the faux model.. or if it's possible at all. |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 | alkemann | JeffEmbracedDC: u can make the with model in same way as other models |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 | alkemann | in fact cake makes a model for all habtm relationships |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 | alkemann | Users HABTM Groups => Model UsersGroup |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 | JeffEmbracedDC | alkemann: interesting.. I should maybe try that |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: it goes back to my point before: why have a join table, then stuff it full of meta data - and end up rebinding it as hasOne, using 'with' and all of the downsides and complexities.. when you could use a third "real" model instead of the join table and life would be much easier |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 | alkemann | sorry GroupsUser probably |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:39 | alkemann | Martz: i sorta agre. I have only used it for the created field and a boolean for if its two-way |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:40 | alkemann | Martz: so, u wanna test my behavior and see if u got some feature requests or bugs or something? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:40 | Martz | alkemann: sure. and it has it uses, as you said with Users.. ACL with aro/aco/axo etc works great HABTM with meta data, but it has custom methods to handle all of that automagically |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 | Martz | alkemann: sure I will at some point. I've got a quick project to do first which wont need any logging (all image uploads and resizing with AD7Sixs attachment behavior :D) but i'll give it a shot. Do you have an SVN you can throw it in? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 | alkemann | no sorry |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 | Martz | do you want one? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:42 | Martz | i can set one up for you if you like |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:42 | alkemann | bit overkill for just a behavior though isnt? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 | Martz | perhaps |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 | Martz | i throw everything in repos :P |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 | achew22 | use one of the free services |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 | achew22 | google code = 30 sec |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 | alkemann | all u need right here http://bin.cakephp.org/saved/35826 |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 | Martz | ACTION bookmarks |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 | achew22 | hey-- that's cool |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 | achew22 | is it possible to get it to log the value changes? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:45 | achew22 | martz its in saved-bin it won't ever go away just go to bin.cakephp.org and search for alkemann logable |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:45 | alkemann | it'd be a bit complicated, it is an obvious step. But i was thinking maybe if u want that, its better to use the Versioning beahvior with shadowtables? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:46 | achew22 | alkemann: you could do both, associate the log change with a shadowtable's element id |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:47 | JeffEmbracedDC | Martz: in your join table model... is in belongsTo or hasOne back associations? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:47 | alkemann | be hard to make it totally general though, would have to be associated with the specific Version behavior i think |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:47 | alkemann | JeffEmbracedDC: belongsTo, since the key is in that model |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:48 | JeffEmbracedDC | alkemann: cool :) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:48 | achew22 | alkemann: if you mixed versioning with logging with polymporphic you would be able to do it |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:48 | achew22 | not to make it complicated or anything |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:49 | alkemann | i will definitivly take a look at it |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:49 | achew22 | that would be a great addition I'd give you a hug if you did that |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:49 | Martz | JeffEmbracedDC: yeah, as alkemann said. Something like: User, Groups, GroupUsers. GroupUsers belongsTo User, Group. User hasMany GroupUsers. Group hasMany GroupUsers - and find more recursively |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:49 | alkemann | i love hugs! :P |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:50 | achew22 | get ready for some major hugs then -- right after I see that code ;) |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:50 | alkemann | ur using a versioning behavior now? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:51 | achew22 | I know the book has one |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:51 | achew22 | ad7 would know |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:51 | alkemann | is the documentation in Logable too sparse? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:52 | achew22 | if I turned it into a professor yes, but for me its just fine |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:52 | alkemann | im not in school anymore. its all about practical :P |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:52 | achew22 | ah but I live in the strange high paced dev world / slow paced higly documented educational world still |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:52 | achew22 | makes my head hurt |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:53 | achew22 | although sometimes I end up with work projects that are 30% comments which is always nice when I come back |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:53 | alkemann | heh, yea i wanna make someting, not learn to make something :P and i try to focus on readable code, vs. over documenting |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:53 | achew22 | alkemann: did you see the new thing the bot does when people get mad? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:53 | alkemann | no. can u show it? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:53 | achew22 | ACTION is mad at alkemann |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | achew22 | lol |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | alkemann | lol |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | alkemann | HELP!!! |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | alkemann | HELP!!!! |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | achew22 | no -- its only catching when the line starts with ! |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | alkemann | ah ok |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:54 | achew22 | and I set up ~!! and ~!!! |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:55 | achew22 | so !!! also works |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:55 | alkemann | ah |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:55 | achew22 | oh cakebot, you don't know what's coming for you... your going to get a message queue soon |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:55 | achew22 | ACTION pets cakebot |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:55 | alkemann | cant find that version behavior. u got it? |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:56 | achew22 | it may not be public |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:56 | achew22 | ask AD7 or gwoo or one of the documentation guys |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:56 | alkemann | they are a bit strict on the bakery. i got an article that is unpublished as well |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:57 | achew22 | they are just falling behind its hard to moderate the bakery |
| # | Aug 7th 2008, 04:57 | achew22 | hey... when did I join the documentation team http://cakeforge.org/projects/cakedocs/ |