Log message #108727

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# Aug 7th 2008, 04:46 achew22 alkemann: you could do both, associate the log change with a shadowtable's element id
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:45 alkemann it'd be a bit complicated, it is an obvious step. But i was thinking maybe if u want that, its better to use the Versioning beahvior with shadowtables?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:45 achew22 martz its in saved-bin it won't ever go away just go to bin.cakephp.org and search for alkemann logable
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 achew22 is it possible to get it to log the value changes?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 achew22 hey-- that's cool
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:44 Martz ACTION bookmarks
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 alkemann all u need right here http://bin.cakephp.org/saved/35826
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 achew22 google code = 30 sec
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 achew22 use one of the free services
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 Martz i throw everything in repos :P
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:43 Martz perhaps
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:42 alkemann bit overkill for just a behavior though isnt?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:42 Martz i can set one up for you if you like
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 Martz do you want one?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 alkemann no sorry
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:41 Martz alkemann: sure I will at some point. I've got a quick project to do first which wont need any logging (all image uploads and resizing with AD7Sixs attachment behavior :D) but i'll give it a shot. Do you have an SVN you can throw it in?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:40 Martz alkemann: sure. and it has it uses, as you said with Users.. ACL with aro/aco/axo etc works great HABTM with meta data, but it has custom methods to handle all of that automagically
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:40 alkemann Martz: so, u wanna test my behavior and see if u got some feature requests or bugs or something?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:39 alkemann Martz: i sorta agre. I have only used it for the created field and a boolean for if its two-way
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 alkemann sorry GroupsUser probably
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 Martz JeffEmbracedDC: it goes back to my point before: why have a join table, then stuff it full of meta data - and end up rebinding it as hasOne, using 'with' and all of the downsides and complexities.. when you could use a third "real" model instead of the join table and life would be much easier
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 JeffEmbracedDC alkemann: interesting.. I should maybe try that
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:37 alkemann Users HABTM Groups => Model UsersGroup
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 alkemann in fact cake makes a model for all habtm relationships
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 alkemann JeffEmbracedDC: u can make the with model in same way as other models
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 JeffEmbracedDC alkemann: works great in my opinion.. only downside I've come across so far.. is.. I'm not sure how you add beforeSave/afterSave/whatever functions to the faux model.. or if it's possible at all.
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 stevieboy pgcd: it's always good to have an open eye. but mostly you can check the manual for the helpers provided. if you arent lucky there, try it the normal way
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:36 pgcd as somebody said, sometime it's quicker to just reinvent the wheel =)
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 pgcd stevieboy: that is good advice - it might save me a lot of time down the road if i just *do* things instead of perusing manual api and google to see if there's something else that does it
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 alkemann Martz: JeffEmbracedDC when using a with I have been forced to add an id field and put it as primary key, but that has worked well
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 JeffEmbracedDC Martz: Gotchya
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:35 Martz JeffEmbracedDC: im aware it exists, I played with it, but I dont use it
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:34 Martz JeffEmbracedDC: the downside, which someone pointed out to me, is that mysql isnt able to "ensure integrity" of not having the same 2 foreign keys, since they are not primary keys like in a HABTM join table. However that is solveable with validaiton and checking at the PHP level
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:34 JeffEmbracedDC Martz: well...... are you familiar with 'with' associations? which allow for added meta data and faux model access of the join table?
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 Martz JeffEmbracedDC: yeah. I tend to make my schema now with a 3rd real model instead of a join table, so that I can add meta data, easily define complex conditions etc
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 pgcd speed and memory usage of foreach don't worry me in this case, seeing as it's gonna be 3/4 records at most for every loop
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:33 stevieboy pgcd: cake helps with data retrival and so on. in the view it's mostly normal php with the vars
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:32 pgcd stevieboy: =) i'll use it... honestly, it's just that i'm so new to cakephp that I always expect there's a "neater" way of doing everything
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:32 JeffEmbracedDC Martz: hah really? hmm
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 Martz JeffEmbracedDC: i ran away from HABTM and any complex queries I'd need for them a long time ago ;) Life is too short for HABTM! ;)
# Aug 7th 2008, 04:31 stevieboy pgcd: i meant you are wrong. foreach is usefull and the right approach for that