Log message #905670

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# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:44 alkemann no thanks. i just dont see a reason for not always hashing it
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:43 Phally no, only if username AND password are in the array, try it :p
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:43 alkemann why? and i thought auth always hashed password
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:42 Phally because that is how auth works, before it starts hashing everything... username and password must be in the array else no hashing
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:41 alkemann why?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:41 Phally it depends on the proper AuthComponent::$fields to be available in $data
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:39 alkemann 172 and 177 .. why is one hashed and other not?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:39 alkemann Phally: http://thechaw.com/bakery/source/branches/2.0/plugins/users/tests/cases/components/access.test.php#177
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:38 alkemann oh
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:38 Phally auth calls it
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:38 Phally eh, it is automatically called
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:37 alkemann i guess one could implement it in controller to just call this
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:37 alkemann Phally: $this->Controller->Access->isAuthorized() - why not isAuthorized() on controller? so it's automatically called?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:37 Phally jawohl
# Jul 22nd 2009, 03:36 alkemann Phally: ?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:44 pointlessjon yeah, y'know the more i program the more i actually become interested in mathematics
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:43 jperras and besides, calculus is fun :P
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:39 jperras then your options are a bit more limited
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:35 pointlessjon i haven't
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:33 jperras there are books that start off with no calc, and others that dive right into the thick of it.
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:33 jperras it usually depends on whether or not you're familiar with calculus or not
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:33 pointlessjon no worries, it's a big internet out there
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:31 jperras not particularly; I took my stats classes in university for a math degree, so I'm not actually sure what they cover in those books.
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:31 pointlessjon any particular recommendations?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon been on the computer too long today ;)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 jperras if you're really interested, there are a few books out there on statistics for programmers
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon err
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon the solution gets fuzzy around the solution for me
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:29 pointlessjon yeah the problem is very clear
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:28 jperras I tried to explain it in plain English terms in the wiki, iirc
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:28 jperras yeah, they can be a bit dense in places
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:27 pointlessjon indeed. I tried reading into the articles you linked to but it was beyond me
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 jperras curiosity is mankind's greatest gift ;-)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 pointlessjon i'm mostly asking out of curiousity
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 pointlessjon i see
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 jperras really, it's just a mathematical construct to get a more accurate picture
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 pointlessjon right
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras when it should really be closer to 1
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras that outlier actually brings the mean to 1.8
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras one person gives it 5 stars (e.g. person who wrote article)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras 4 give it 1 star