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Jul 15th 2009, 17:30 |
ProLoser|Work |
huh? well i'm already confident i have my logic in the right place |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:29 |
Phally |
btw, datasources are adapters, so it is basicly the same |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:29 |
Phally |
yeah, you might built adapters for payment methods, but i think they are too different |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:28 |
ProLoser|Work |
speaking of forum... |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:27 |
ProLoser|Work |
it's annoying when people ask for a cake forum or cart and there isn't really one best solution |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:27 |
ProLoser|Work |
for his scenario it's okay, i'm trying to get something the community can get behind though |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:27 |
ProLoser|Work |
ya i understand |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:27 |
Phally |
yeah, i wasn't giving it to you, just describing it |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:27 |
ProLoser|Work |
lol well... i'm back at square one |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:26 |
Phally |
it is private and owned by the company |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:26 |
ProLoser|Work |
where can i find the code? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:26 |
Phally |
yeah, i don't know if it's the best way to go since i haven't the slightest clue on payment methods, but it works quite nice |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:25 |
ProLoser|Work |
where is that code now? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:25 |
ProLoser|Work |
the plugin, right? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:25 |
Phally |
i was just descibing how he built something reusable for payments |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:25 |
ProLoser|Work |
or uh do you mean seperating gateways into their own files |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:24 |
ProLoser|Work |
so your saying my solution wouldn't work for him? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:24 |
Phally |
like ccbill |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:24 |
Phally |
*etc |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:24 |
Phally |
tripledeal is a dutch payment method for credit cards, bank transfers erc |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:24 |
ProLoser|Work |
what is a tripledeal controller? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:23 |
Phally |
ProLoser|Work: yeah, because all those payment methods are so different, he said he needed to separate the logic |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:22 |
ProLoser|Work |
for cakephp? |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:22 |
Phally |
ProLoser|Work: what a collegue of mine did in the past.. he made a payments plugin with a ccbill_controller, a tripledeal_controller etc |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:22 |
ProLoser|Work |
no team development (outside the core) and no expanded scripts |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:21 |
ProLoser|Work |
i think it's why the selection of scripts out there is somewhat poor at times |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:21 |
ProLoser|Work |
instead of the "this code fits this need in this specific way and must be installed thusly to do that" |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:21 |
ProLoser|Work |
that way if people want more gateways, they simply create a new datasource that links into the behavior, causing more people to reuse the same scripts |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:20 |
ProLoser|Work |
so the idea of creating a set of standards that filters through a payment gateway behavior and then use your paymentgateway on your site |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:20 |
ProLoser|Work |
for instance, there are lots of datasources, and a few payment gateways, but they are all slightly tedious to setup |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:20 |
ProLoser|Work |
but more than than, making the abstract and modular |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 |
ProLoser|Work |
preventing scope creep |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 |
ProLoser|Work |
well ya |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 |
Phally |
and make it flexible so people can put like anything in it |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 |
ProLoser|Work |
anywho, i like giving up the tools, and letting people choose how and where to apply them |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:19 |
Phally |
right, that is a nice alternative use of such a thing |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 |
ProLoser|Work |
or abstractly measured pricing |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 |
ProLoser|Work |
there are also aspects of a cart that is just a pain and a h alf to hack out of a prebuilt one, such as composite products |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:18 |
ProLoser|Work |
but you cannot checkout or buy anything from them |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:17 |
ProLoser|Work |
Phally: the intention is that we haven't seen it so we don't know, but the best ideas are the ones no one's done before |
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Jul 15th 2009, 17:17 |
Phally |
the paginator helper is loaded in the controller when something is paginated |