Log message #536166

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# Feb 19th 2009, 10:28 AD7six I'm not sure if your missing my point. if the bakery uses the plugin that the book uses (and the plugin's user model uses a different datasouce from $default) that by design addresses what I'm trying to point out.
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:27 gwoo so it has the appearance of being the same
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:27 gwoo AD7six: joins are still handled internally by cake
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:27 AD7six gwoo: multiple selects are desirable is what I'm saying and the bakery code shouldn't assume the user table is in the bakery db.
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:27 gwoo is a step in the direction
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:27 jperras k
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 jperras ok, so accounts on book are really bakery accounts?
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 gwoo jperras: the bakery plugin i built for thebook
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 gwoo they are all bakery accounts
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 gwoo jperras: no
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 gwoo AD7six: multiple selects are already done across the different db
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 jperras gwoo: right now they're all separate accounts, correct?
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:26 gwoo so if you click on your account name on the book you get your profile and do not have to go back to the bakery
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:25 gwoo AD7six: i would prefer to see a unified plugin that provides the same access to information across all the sites
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:24 AD7six a) know what I mean? b) thoughts
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:24 AD7six there's a term for what that means in terms of db queries which escapes me, instead of select * from posts left join users (author) you'd do 2 selects, which is simpler but more imprtantly means the users table can be in a different db from the app's data.
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:23 AD7six they setup for the bakery.
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:23 AD7six the book makes no joins between its own data and the users table. the book in reality needs its own user-profile or user-role or simply acl tables for disassociating book data, roles and everything else from simple 'a user'. I think the bakery should be designed to do the same - i.e. it should be possible to use the users table/model in any app on cakephp.org without assuming they have the same role/profile/requirements/whatever that
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:21 jperras I got some time
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:21 AD7six well I'll state the problem/doubt/idea for mulling over:
# Feb 19th 2009, 10:20 AD7six jperras: you got a minute now, or a bit later?
# Feb 19th 2009, 09:36 jperras more mockups based on use cases will follow, once I get some feedback on this initial one
# Feb 19th 2009, 09:34 jperras for all those interested, a first draft mockup of the bakery is viewable at http://drop.io/jperras . Comments are welcome and encouraged.
# Feb 19th 2009, 07:38 alkemann that would be weird :p
# Feb 19th 2009, 07:37 poLK I doubt debuggable guys will sue CSF ;)
# Feb 19th 2009, 07:36 alkemann did i say include? i meant shamelessly steal off course .p
# Feb 19th 2009, 07:35 poLK +1 vote
# Feb 19th 2009, 06:59 alkemann i really like debuggable.com 's feature of deprecating articles. I think we should include this feature. letting author's and moderators set this tag instead of deleting
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:37 jperras thanks. g'night
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:36 alkemann ok. sleep well
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:36 jperras the other mockups will be forthcoming, after we smooth out a few details from this one
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:36 jperras k, well I'm going to get a few hours of sleep. feel free to leave comments on the drop.io page, or on the wiki itself.
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:35 jperras good point
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:35 alkemann you should include the footer in ur write though
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:34 alkemann yea
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:34 jperras with an override for special announcements when they come up
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:33 jperras that could work
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:33 alkemann i agree on the boxes. but im unsure about timeline. im thinking using more space for hottest articles. maybe auto "feature" highest scoring stuff
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:31 jperras if you have ideas, I'm all ears ;-)
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:31 jperras really, I just want to get away from the mishmash of boxes
# Feb 19th 2009, 02:29 jperras alkemann: ok, tag cloud can stay at the same spot above the 'hottest stuff'