Log message #534137

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# Feb 18th 2009, 14:26 d1rk jperras: what do you think the wireframes will be ready?
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:26 d1rk gotta go, see you all later.
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:21 d1rk alkemann: yes, especially if talking about features, but we have to do something before that, so if development cycles get shorter one could setup ci.
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:20 d1rk jperras: yeah - hehe. lets see if i can stretch this very day to 36 hours... uhm, no.. failed.. so...
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:20 alkemann being able to checkout the dev branch to an online server could be useful for sure
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:18 jperras d1rk: you make some good points, for sure. but yeah, I think we can drop this for the moment
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:17 d1rk jperras: yeah - it is of no importance right now. I was just curious...
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:17 d1rk jperras: you are right, there is need for tests. but i like the process of an automatic deployment to an online.webserver so i (and others) can always check the current state of development as oposed everybody has to fetch latest sources and test them in their own environment...
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:16 jperras in any case, I think this is a very unimportant point at this time, since individuals can create their own pre-commit hooks to ensure they haven't broken anything
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:15 jperras d1rk: not really. what's the point of having cont. integration to run all your tests if you're not writing tests as you develop more features?
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:15 alkemann i love tdd, but so far i have only made tests for behaviors, components and helpers. app tests seems like not so good in the reward/work area
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:14 d1rk jperras: it can be unrelated to code-coverage...
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:13 jperras alkemann: I tend to agree to some extent. for cont. integration to be useful, you need to maintain ~80% or better code coverage at all times
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:12 d1rk jperras: thank you. It looks promising
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:11 d1rk alkemann: if it is setup once, it makes the devs and all project-related persons happy :)
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:09 alkemann to me it sounds a little overkill, but i would be happy for the experience of doing this :)
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:02 jperras of course, you need to have the cake shell in your $PATH as well
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:02 jperras actually, that might need a little tweak; I'm not sure if the testsuite shell returns an exit value of 1 when a test fails
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:01 jperras http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1733483502
# Feb 18th 2009, 14:00 jperras and populate it with the code in the bin:
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:59 jperras d1rk: create a pre-commit file in $BOOK_PROJECT/.git/hooks/pre-commit
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:59 d1rk jperras: sounds great. could you give me a hint how to do that?
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:58 d1rk jperras: oh, really? how do i do that?
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:58 jperras and even a pre-commit to make sure your tests pass before you do a push
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:58 jperras d1rk: you can implement your own post-commit hooks in git for test running very easily
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:57 d1rk maybe, if there is something like a web-callback in thechaw i would deploy it for myself on a test-instance, somewhere....
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:56 d1rk jperras: i see your point, but i do not agree at all. actually every commit should try not to break everything.
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:56 alkemann if u set it up, i dont see a problem. but once we got a spec down, this is kinda of a simpe project :)
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 d1rk jperras: well, i like the idea of having it (actually, i use it on all my projects) because i can have a look if everything turns out as it should be. And well, it is possible to show other people as well, what had been done.
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 jperras and ci is really only useful for a nearly complete, stable product
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:55 d1rk alkemann: it means to have a automatic deployment to a staging-server that is initiated by a commit.
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 d1rk i thought we could push the latest revision onto a test-server or something on every commit.
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 d1rk jperras: oh, ok.
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:54 jperras two things which bakery does not yet have
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:53 jperras d1rk: you need a very well defined api and test cases for that
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:48 alkemann a what=
# Feb 18th 2009, 13:45 d1rk alkemann: is there something like a continious integration process for bakery2?
# Feb 18th 2009, 12:56 d1rk alkemann: a combination of all usually implies (at least a little bit of) quality
# Feb 18th 2009, 12:48 alkemann we can use views for popularity was my point as well
# Feb 18th 2009, 12:48 alkemann no we want quality measure i meant
# Feb 18th 2009, 12:47 jperras if all we want is a popularity metric, there's page views and # delicious bookmarks