Log message #4267041

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# Jul 2nd 2021, 18:59 kevin.pfeifer as a native german speaker I can definitely NOT recommend using it in any matter :,)
# Jul 2nd 2021, 16:49 dereuromark Is klingonian already out again these days?^^
# Jul 2nd 2021, 16:44 tyler.adam.lazenby speak? What is this speaking you .... never mind
# Jul 2nd 2021, 16:17 admad What do you wanna do instead, speak Cherokee? :P
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:52 tyler.adam.lazenby The fact that I let the program do that and not question whether that was correct or not is a testament to that.
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:51 tyler.adam.lazenby I am merican and we tend to let others influence how we speak way too much to have really any say
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:39 staccato123 I'm sure we used to be cooler...
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:37 staccato123 bitte sehr!
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:34 dereuromark Every language steals :) We Germans a lot from English because it's "cool"^^
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:33 staccato123 even with our larcenous approach to vocabulary
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:33 staccato123 Agree with @dereuromark, "metum" is not a word in English
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:32 staccato123 (I have never used it in the sense of "boundary marker" :) )
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:30 staccato123 (OED agrees "boundary marker")
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:29 dereuromark @admad I would align this with symfony, doctrine inflectors to be consistent: meta <> metas.
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:28 staccato123 Wiktionary says it can mean "boundary marker", but again the plural is metas or metae
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:28 cnizzardini https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metum
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:27 admad I simply add a rule to not inflect it :)
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:27 staccato123 in which case the plural is metas
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:27 staccato123 I am British. Meta as a noun is surely nearly always a shortening of something (e.g. "metahuman" in sci-fi)
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:25 dereuromark So the Americans and British can sure chime in now :) confirm or deny any such claim now
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:25 staccato123 Oh, I see
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:24 dereuromark I mean what is written and linked there, from Wiktionary ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/metas#English ). So that is the noun we are talking here in terms of inflection.
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:23 staccato123 assuming you mean meta- the prefix, I'm not sure it has a plural
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:22 staccato123 metum is not the plural of meta, surely?
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:22 dereuromark You could make a PR for 4.3 here
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:22 dereuromark meta <> metas (metum doesnt exist)
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:21 dereuromark Well sry to be a buzzkill, we might have to fix the inflector here though: https://github.com/laravel/framework/issues/26657#issuecomment-442610004
# Jul 2nd 2021, 15:10 tyler.adam.lazenby I have to say that I learned something about English grammar with the pluralization of things like meta to metum
# Jul 2nd 2021, 14:34 admad debugmail.io looks nice, it's free!
# Jul 2nd 2021, 14:17 steinkel btw, we've used debugmail.io as a 3rd party solution
# Jul 2nd 2021, 14:17 steinkel they have a docker container that "just works"
# Jul 2nd 2021, 14:16 steinkel totally, I used it as an imap local server for testing, use it as a last resort
# Jul 2nd 2021, 13:49 admad "enterprise" and "java" are not words I like to associate with stuff for local testing :P
# Jul 2nd 2021, 13:48 admad @steinkel Just skimmed it's about page but JAMES seems quite an overkill for a local SMTP mail trap :)
# Jul 2nd 2021, 11:52 kevin.pfeifer In my opinion the conventions described in https://book.cakephp.org/4/en/intro/conventions.html are not too complicated. Besides the fact, that only entity classes and foreign_key columns have a singular name, everything else is plural
# Jul 2nd 2021, 11:49 dereuromark Semantically it makes actually a lot of sense. Only technically, it is a bit troublesome in some cases maybe.
# Jul 2nd 2021, 11:49 dereuromark You could singularize it all, but I don't think the current way is a big deal.
# Jul 2nd 2021, 11:47 kevin.pfeifer no, why?
# Jul 2nd 2021, 11:44 noel Does anyone else think that the pluralisation thing that the ORM does is a REALLY BAD IDEA?
# Jul 2nd 2021, 07:51 steinkel @tyler.adam.lazenby in case mailhog does not work for you, try this https://james.apache.org/
# Jul 1st 2021, 22:46 khalil A simple dd of the request being sent is the following: