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# Feb 17th 2020, 17:11 neon1024 > application providing the model based on what it’s asked for
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:07 admad what you want could be achieved relatively easily in Cake 4 by overriding Controller::getAction() and Controller::invokeAction()
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:05 chris301 anyway, i’m clocking off for the day - thanks for your help guys - looks like what we’ve wanted to do isn’t possible
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:05 chris301 to do what we have seen elsewhere, it wouldn’t be the router doing it - rather the application providing the model based on what it’s asked for. it’s interesting to see the differences between frameworks
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:03 admad making the router pull out entities is muddling of concerns IMO
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:01 chris301 we inherited this codebase, along with its problems, and have worked to make it a useable base - we are also behind on versions, due to other complications we’ve had along the way. it’s in the long term plan to update, but that hasn’t happened yet
# Feb 17th 2020, 17:00 chris301 what we’re trying to do is separate out the concerns fully. as for replicating laravel with cake, theres things we’ve got in place to make our jobs easier but we know replicating laravel is nigh on impossible in cake
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:58 chris301 so we have many of those already in place
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:58 neon1024 `$this->Posts->find('newest')->find('byAuthor', ['author' => 'Dave'])->find('published');`
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:58 admad stop trying to replicate laravel with cake :) just state your problem and ask how to deal with it in cake
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:58 flashios09 ```$this->Proposals->find('yourCustomFinderNameHere', ['id' => $proposalId]);```
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:58 neon1024 ..and they’re composable too which makes them very powerful
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:57 chris301 oooh - literally finders on the ORM
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:57 neon1024 https://book.cakephp.org/3/en/orm/retrieving-data-and-resultsets.html#custom-finder-methods
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:57 chris301 intrigued to know more… custom finder?
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:56 flashios09 > just copied and pasted all over the place, so we’re just trying to centralise it create a custom finder
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:56 admad @chris301 @dan874 Use custom finders
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:55 chris301 i don’t think it was me lol
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:54 chris301 :,)
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:54 neon1024 I used to work with a guy called Chris Miller
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:54 chris301 to give some idea (i work with @dan874) i’m looking at a line now that is using a 6 deep nested association
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:53 dan874 just copied and pasted all over the place, so we're just trying to centralise it
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:53 dan874 yeah so this codebase we've inherited has a lot of them with lots of associations
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:52 neon1024 Perhaps a custom finder could help somewhat if you have a find with associations you use frequently
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:52 admad > but what if you use that line in 30 different places? Use friendsofcake/crud :)
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:52 neon1024 It feels like doing more work than what you’re saving
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:52 neon1024 :thumbsdown: from me, sorry
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:51 dan874 so is the general consensus something like this not a good idea?
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:51 neon1024 That’s a PHP issue, not a Cake issue imho
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:51 neon1024 Set it’s result to a class property
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:51 dan874 but what if you use that line in 30 different places?
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:49 admad So much trouble to save 1 line of code: `$this->Foo->get($id)`
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 dan874 as it seems to kill the session in some way
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 neon1024 It also means if you need a bespoke entity, you’d have wasted that loading
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 dan874 i think the large entity is killing it
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 dan874 by that i mean the middleware
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 dan874 @neon1024 thats actually what we've done and i think thats whats causing the issue
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 neon1024 You could always abstract away the loading of the data into a table method if that was what the issue was
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:48 neon1024 I don’t really see any benefits to the approach either
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:47 neon1024 You could use a middleware perhaps, but you’d have to set the entity into the request, and with associated data I would worry about setting a large entity and associated data into the request, as the request is passed to so many places
# Feb 17th 2020, 16:46 neon1024 ..but it wouldn’t allow it to be passed into the method