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# Dec 18th 2019, 10:26 SvenBuis This seems to me like a ‘chicken-egg’ problem. So I would like your advise, what is the best way to solve this.
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:26 SvenBuis Hello, I have a question about how to upgrade to CakePHP 4. I have some plugins that require CakePHP 3.x at this moment (but versions for CakePHP 4 are available). But when I try to update to CakePHP 4, I get the message that this is not allowed by the plugin. When trying to update the plugin first I get the message that is requires CakePHP 4.x.
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:24 neon1024 As I think it’s important to help CakePHP compete with other frameworks
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:24 neon1024 I am always curious what brings people to the framework and how newcomers find the first contact experience with the framework
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:24 gianmarxgagliardi @neon1024 why all these questions?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:23 javier.villanueva phpstorm the best
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:23 jotpe vim for the win :troll:
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:23 challgren Ewww Netbeans!!!
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:23 neon1024 Netbeans :face_vomiting:
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:22 pieceof netbeans, notepad++, em editor (for dumps)
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:22 challgren https://www.jetbrains.com/shop/eform/startup
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:22 challgren Oh and if you email them for a startup you get 50% off
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:22 jotpe Protip: For educational organizations PHPStorm has a free license.
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:21 challgren Plus Mr. Plugin wrote a great plugin called dereuromark/ide-helper that automatically annotes your code for you
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:21 challgren PHPStorm has a 30 day trial
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:20 gianmarxgagliardi for java i always used eclipse
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:19 challgren Im a java/kotlin dev so being able to see the original function is extremely helpful to me
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:19 gianmarxgagliardi ok thanks i will take note
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:18 gianmarxgagliardi i'm using sublime text or visual studio code
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:18 challgren Id highly recommend PHPStorm, its nice because you can go to the function declaration and read more into the code and reverse stack trace things
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:18 gianmarxgagliardi no
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:17 challgren @gianmarxgagliardi do you use PHPStorm or VS?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:17 gianmarxgagliardi having said that I can only thank you for the support you have given me
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:17 challgren @gianmarxgagliardi what helped me with cake was doing the blog demo and then just mashing together what I wanted to get done
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:15 gianmarxgagliardi that's why I turn to you. I hope I have been too harassing
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:15 neon1024 Oh right, okay :)
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:15 gianmarxgagliardi the others program in procedural php even with objects
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:14 gianmarxgagliardi I am the only one who develops in cakephp in my company or rather who uses mvc patterns
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:13 gianmarxgagliardi they had an old cakephp 2.x project which they hoped would recycle
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:12 neon1024 Do other people in your company use CakePHP?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:12 neon1024 Did they have a reason for picking CakePHP for you?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:10 gianmarxgagliardi I didn't know him, I hadn't heard of him. My employer told me to develop a cakephp project
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:09 neon1024 What made you pick CakePHP?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:09 gianmarxgagliardi I developed some php mashups
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:07 gianmarxgagliardi Yes sure
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:06 neon1024 @gianmarxgagliardi Did you just do basic PHP before you started with an MVC framework?
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:06 neon1024 Then you can specify a field for the value, even an entity accessor method
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:05 slackebot <neon1024>
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:05 neon1024 The key bit being this example
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:05 neon1024 Oh, the docs are defaulting to 4.x
# Dec 18th 2019, 10:04 neon1024 https://book.cakephp.org/4/en/orm/retrieving-data-and-resultsets.html#customize-key-value-output