Log message #4191170

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# Jun 28th 2019, 04:32 savant I’m not going to comment on whether I think usercake/userspice is good or not, I already like CakePHP and it provides a lot of functionality to create very complex apps in a structured way
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:31 savant looking at “usercake”, seems like its now “userspice”
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:31 savant lol
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:31 glenn.e :P
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:31 glenn.e it may of been usercake
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:31 glenn.e i may owe you and the team an apology
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:30 glenn.e hhmm
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:29 savant What was the last cakephp version you used before 3.x?
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:28 glenn.e i know i know
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:28 savant I’m not trying to be an asshole here, really trying to understand what is the blocker
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:28 glenn.e reading the documentation now
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:28 savant What isn’t as “RAW”, and what hoops are there?
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:28 glenn.e because it is not RAW as it used to be, need to work out the hoops to jump through
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:25 savant Why can you not do that now?
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:25 slackebot been kept.
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:25 glenn.e it was more intuitive, i could just open up the index and start writing functions then add items to the side menu and duplicate the header and footers and continue on to the next. There was just direction with older builds that didn't need documentation to teach you how to use it. It just worked and i have been talking about it for years and now i need it again i just have no idea what happened. The RAW barebones version is how it should of
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:22 savant Maybe the biggest bit I can think of is needing to add Namespaces for any classes you are using, but thats a PHP thing, not specific to CakePHP. I don’t know of any modern framework that does not use namespaces.
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:21 savant > there was no frameworks or anything stupid by definition, CakePHP is a framework, but is there something specific that you find more difficult now?
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:21 glenn.e happy to relearn but this just feels backwards to how it used to be
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:20 savant You will need to pass the system requirements (php version, one or two extensions) but its the same workflow
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:20 savant If you download and extract that, you’re done.
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:19 savant For 3.8.0, the release link https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/releases/tag/3.8.0 has a zip attached (its not the source code zip)
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:19 glenn.e i got one installed through cpanel
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:18 savant You can definitely still download a tarball of CakePHP and start using it as is
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:18 glenn.e the projects that i wrote before using cake, it was just extract and there was the structure and you could start writing. there was no frameworks or anything stupid it was just raw code that worked well that you could build on.
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:16 savant Is there specific feedback you have for the project?
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:16 savant The biggest changes have been adoption of composer (which I think is a great boon, compared to what was available in the past) and modern PHP (which allowed us to remove a _ton_ of cruft and make the internals quite a bit more flexible/powerful)
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:15 savant @glenn.e it is the same people working on cakephp now as it was 5 years ago
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:13 glenn.e what the hell happened, who let millennials near this
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:12 glenn.e for quick build up
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:12 glenn.e 5 years ago it was a perfect design
# Jun 28th 2019, 04:12 glenn.e what happened to cakephp
# Jun 28th 2019, 02:28 challgren @nuzulfikrie check out cakedc/users plugin
# Jun 28th 2019, 02:16 nuzulfikrie hi support , i am n00b with Cakephp using cakephp/authentication from https://github.com/cakephp/authentication. How do you configure the controllers ?.
# Jun 27th 2019, 21:27 stephenzgalbraith Does a 'through' association require an auto incremented id column in the join table? I am trying to use a through association and the data becomes available in the '_joinData
# Jun 27th 2019, 21:14 neothermic and I can't get it to actually invoke it successfuly
# Jun 27th 2019, 21:14 neothermic meh, trying to invoke cake's console via systemd's timers
# Jun 27th 2019, 18:24 ricksaccous i see
# Jun 27th 2019, 18:24 vossen.steven yea i use it as top level only atm as well, since other stuff are always on a per client basis
# Jun 27th 2019, 18:20 ricksaccous i'm just worried about dealing with this when i have those special permissions, but i suppose that might be a different set of permissions, and whatever i have now is sufficient for top level access
# Jun 27th 2019, 18:20 ricksaccous @vossen.steven thanks for the suggestion though, that's helpful