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# Mar 13th 2019, 09:46 acosonic Yeah I guess
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:46 neon1024 Although it does raise the issue of CakePHP LTS releases
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:46 dereuromark Guideline: Do not care about vendor dependencies. Care only about your stuff and direct used dependencies. The rest will sort itself out somewhere along the line.
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:46 neon1024 ..and on the flip side, you can see from Composer some of the Symfony components coming down too
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:45 neon1024 So at least from a support standpoint, you know the core team will support their own implementations of the tooling provided in the framework for the future :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:44 neon1024 Usually roll your own in Cake, as the core team maintain their own Http stack, rather than using Foundation, and maintain their own HttpClient rather than Guzzle, and took over Migrations to maintain that, and have put their own layer on DateTime
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:43 neon1024 As for lots of packages, well that’s always a balance choice for the core team. Maintain stuff themselves or rely on other people
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:43 neon1024 Perhaps investigate Symfony Flex? That gives you a flexible componentised approach install
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:42 dereuromark @acosonic You are funny. Did you try laravel boilerplate lately? It will install literally the whole universe :slightly_smiling_face: They dont seem to mind.
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:42 neon1024 Perhaps Jordi will get bored and go do something else
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:41 neon1024 Who even knows if we’ll still be using Composer in a decade from now
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:41 neon1024 New standards will be released, fashions will change, new packages will emerge
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:41 neon1024 ;)
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:41 neon1024 That’s why I have a job
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:40 neon1024 I don’t think software will stay in the same state for more than ayear
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:40 neon1024 I don’t think software will stay in the same state for 10 years
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:40 acosonic Hm...
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:40 neon1024 I’d think people will upgrade to Cake 4, and some plugins will not be updated
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:40 neon1024 My gut says, no, of course they won’t be available
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:39 neon1024 Nobody knows the answer to that question.
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:23 acosonic My fear is situation 10y from now and I still need to use it, will those libs be available, or?
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:23 acosonic https://youtu.be/dbgZ15hoL4Y
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:23 acosonic Hi, so I am testing some cakephp 3 "boilerplate" with composer... Is it supposed to install so many libraries?
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:06 roel @dereuromark Thank you for your response, I'll look into that :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 13th 2019, 09:03 dereuromark @roel you could check if https://github.com/dereuromark/cakephp-translate could be adjusted to your needs. You could also have a separate (non-admin) frontend for those tables for your users, adjusted what they are allowed to do, and you then could merge/approve based on the input you get from them.
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:52 neon1024 Morning all
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:52 roel Hi everyone, Currently I am creating user added translations. Does anyone have experience with this, how I can solve this the "right" way? Create one big table that has all the translations and let it point to other tables and rows? Thanks in advance.
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:50 josbeir probably not db related :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:49 josbeir check your php-fpm / apache error log
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:14 ahmedmuaz0152 hopefully to gain some help here in slack community
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:14 ahmedmuaz0152 based on my error log of cakephp it shows like the connection is being closed
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:14 ahmedmuaz0152 resulted to same error
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:13 ahmedmuaz0152 i have tried to use utf8mb4_unicode_ci and also utf8_general_ci
# Mar 13th 2019, 08:13 ahmedmuaz0152 Hi there, anoyone used croogo 3.0.5 ? i am struggling with an issue while installing it..after setupDatabase it goes to internal server error
# Mar 13th 2019, 03:25 challgren @stephenzgalbraith https://github.com/CakeDC/users is also helpful it has RABC https://github.com/CakeDC/auth/blob/master/Docs/Documentation/Rbac.md
# Mar 13th 2019, 01:47 admad https://github.com/cakephp/authentication
# Mar 13th 2019, 01:46 admad @stephenzgalbraith https://github.com/cakephp/authorization
# Mar 12th 2019, 23:50 stephenzgalbraith Thank you, I'll take a look at that and see if I can use it or adapt what I have :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 12th 2019, 23:39 dereuromark For me roles and permissions are two different things to keep things simple. roles are the basic auth to actions (e.g. using https://github.com/dereuromark/cakephp-tinyauth ), and permissions can then be sth on top to either display certain parts on the page, or allow certain things inside those actions. That made it posssible for me to not having to use the acl beast plugin^^
# Mar 12th 2019, 23:35 slackebot for different roles and permissions such as hasAllPermissions([...]) or hasRole() that can be made available across my application beyond just controller authorization. For example, making a custom menu depending on the permissions they have. I had originally separated the logic into a Component, but now realize this can't be or shouldn't be accessed in a Cell. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
# Mar 12th 2019, 23:35 stephenzgalbraith Hi all, fairly new to CakePHP and enjoying it so far. I am at a loss though how to go about my own way to authorize users to different controllers for the website I'm building. Basically, users can have multiple roles that each have their own permissions, and then can also have custom permissions. I know the logic to merge all the various permissions to create one set, but I am confused where I should be building the logic to check