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# Dec 28th 2018, 19:44 tomas.saghy about `allowEmpty*` functions… you sent me a link to example calling `notEmptyString` but there is no such method in the Validator class
# Dec 28th 2018, 19:38 tomas.saghy thanks for your response. the problem is, that when something is deprecated, you can somehow change your code so you will be ready for newer version (4.x). but there is no replacement here and hasRendered is still used in render() call
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:18 challgren Ok i sent you a private msg btw
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:17 G00DSP33D Going to head in a meeting now to explain the approach. Meanwhile enjoy the upcoming weekend and all the best for 2019!
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:16 G00DSP33D Again, thanks a lot for your research as well, I hope it also helps you along the 3.x route. Will definitely report back beginning of next week as soon as we can build a proof of concept!
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:15 challgren Yep, but even if your tests just flex the code you can identify issues
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:15 G00DSP33D We will however not make that mistake again, as we pulled out quite some hair along the way.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:15 G00DSP33D At first our focus was to develop something that could hit the market and ship as viable. And you know how it goes from there. Business starts growing, and focus is on selling more instead of improving and refactoring.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:14 challgren But now that I started my app in 3.6 I jumped to 3.7 pretty easy with the tests identifying the deprecated methods
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:13 G00DSP33D We too ;-)
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:13 G00DSP33D Alas it wasn't :p
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:13 challgren Ive learned that the hard way
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:13 challgren It only causes nightmares if your code isnt DRY
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:13 G00DSP33D Yes, testing is something we never did in our current iteration of the CMS, and it has caused some nightmares along the way.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:12 G00DSP33D Right now we're in the research phase, trying to soak in as much as possible information about 3.x, ensuring that we can rebuild every feature in the best and most flexible way available.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:12 challgren Also I would highly recommend writing testcases
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:11 G00DSP33D Aha, finally I can say for once that we know this one and are planning to use it during the migration :D ...
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:10 challgren Along with https://github.com/dereuromark/upgrade
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:09 challgren https://github.com/dereuromark/cakephp-shim may help a bit too
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:08 G00DSP33D Awesome, thanks again for sharing this.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:08 G00DSP33D Great! I've reserved some time this weekend to set up a first proof-of-concept, but will have to do some reading in the Cook book. But your hint might save me some time. Based on my initial findings I though it would be more complex.
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:07 challgren Depends on your layout @rightscoreanalysis
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:06 rightscoreanalysis in there a cake/book way to set a page title in cake3?
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:05 challgren https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30845997/how-to-generate-sql-function-calls-with-the-cakephp-query-builder
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:05 challgren So I did more research and you can just use $query->newExp() to use your native json sql functions
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:02 G00DSP33D should I take a look at anything?
# Dec 28th 2018, 14:00 G00DSP33D yes I am
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:46 challgren vendor/bin/phpunit tests/TestCase/Mailer
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:45 challgren @g00dsp33d you around still?
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:24 challgren If you do make custom functions Im sure the community could benefit from then and you could do a PR to get them added or make a plugin
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:24 G00DSP33D Thanks again a million for all the help and ideas both to challgren and admad. If you're interested, I'll report back with the final setup we'll go for. If we can share any code, also will do so.
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:24 challgren My guess is 4.x will break it?
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:23 admad should only need updating deprecated methods and such if you do want to use it
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:23 challgren Ahh ok I was going to go down the STI road and was going to UseMuffin
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:22 admad @challgren highly doubt anyone is using the muffin one, it has been updated in ages :slightly_smiling_face:
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:22 G00DSP33D Yep, same here, always tried to avoid that and use the pure ORM features in Cake. But these could be the ideal compromise for us.
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:21 challgren You would have to define custom SQL function which I honestly havent gotten into yet
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:21 G00DSP33D But since we don't want to overlook anything, we're definitely going to look in all the suggestions you've made.
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:21 G00DSP33D I will be honest. The way we set up fields and validate data is perfect for us, it's really fast. Just the querying is a nightmare. So if we can use the SQL functions as you suggested earlier with true JSON fields, we would be all set.
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:21 challgren @admad UseMuffin not good to use anymore?
# Dec 28th 2018, 13:20 admad https://github.com/robotusers/cakephp-table-inheritance