Log message #4153013

# At Username Text
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:10 itmpls thankfully
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:10 itmpls actually no, ie6 I think
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:09 neon1024 I don’t recall when I learnt to program
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:09 josbeir that browser was released in 1999
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:09 josbeir damn, getting old :S
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:09 itmpls same
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:08 josbeir times have changed :P
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:08 josbeir so.....
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:08 josbeir i started developing in the IE5 days
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 itmpls far better
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 josbeir i'm happy with babel
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 itmpls i mean, 2018 is much better than 2006
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 josbeir we'll get there some day
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 itmpls that's ultimately the problem
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 itmpls if browsers were more consistent it would be much easier to make lighter-weight libraries in general
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:07 josbeir es6 : import class from ... => require(...
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:06 josbeir requirejs is just the importing stuff in node, with babel you can then use import etc
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 neon1024 Although I haven’t used requirejs so I’ve no idea what it’s requirements are
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 josbeir webpack, gulp
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 josbeir no, i'm using it locally for asset building, etc
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 neon1024 Webpack builds the .js file for us and we deploy that
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 neon1024 We certainly don’t deploy Node to our servers, but most of our JS bits are Node
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 josbeir npm ftw !
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:05 neon1024 Just build the packed file
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 josbeir needs to be requirejs compliant to
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 neon1024 You don’t need npm
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 josbeir no npm package no go
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 josbeir yeah thats a requirement :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 neon1024 Or look at Node.js ones and pack up one of those?
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:04 josbeir stubmled on this one https://github.com/laobubu/HyperMD but that has its own issues
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 itmpls doesn't sound like a problem to me, hah
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 neon1024 They all are, but the time to develop the functionality yourself out weighs that in most cases
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 josbeir not many maintained ones out there
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 itmpls i mostly have used markdown/ck/tinymce
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 josbeir i did :)
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:03 itmpls google some alternatives
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:02 josbeir as i said, its not my first ckeditor rodeo but i find it too much for many use cases
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:02 josbeir :)
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:02 josbeir kay i guess ckeditor it is.. again
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:02 neon1024 You can customise it right down if you want, and it doesn’t need jQuery
# Jun 21st 2018, 15:01 neon1024 Yeah, just removes some plugins