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# Mar 4th 2018, 18:14 savant sure thats fine
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:11 makallio85 Just to be clear, for example. If I have invoice_items table that contains possible items user can choose to be included in invoice, i wont actually link my invoices table to that table directly but copy selected items to "invoice_item_states" table and (that has all item data in separate columns) link invoice to that table in order to have this metadata available?
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:08 savant yeah these tables have state, you can version things explicitly and reference that version for anything that needs to be “hardcoded”
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:07 savant etc.
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:07 savant invoice_items
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:06 makallio85 Probably some of this data would go to invoices table of course. But several objects do have state.
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:04 makallio85 in single table as json for example or splitted tables with splitted columns?
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:03 makallio85 I mean, customer, related widgets, client, payment terms, dates etc
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:03 makallio85 But. Would you have single table for states for all kind of objects or separate ones?
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:02 makallio85 Yes. That is what I meant. I just couldnt explain myself correctly.
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:01 savant as in, quantity, any metadata about the widget, etc.
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:01 savant i would have a table with the widget state at the time of purchase :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:00 makallio85 :) Would you go with data revisioning instead?
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:00 savant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:00 savant I guess you can do that
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:00 savant okay
# Mar 4th 2018, 18:00 makallio85 It could save me from storing actual pdfs to anywhere
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:59 makallio85 It could be done via data revisision but for me it seems little bit overkill to do, for all related data
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:58 makallio85 But I mean, that i will store those widget relations for invoices in separate tables - no doubt. But I still need static metadata (for the time, invoice was created) in order to regenerate. For example when I want to change widget price or something else that was related to invoice.
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:56 makallio85 Yeah, true.
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant cant do it if you are serializing that data
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant some months down the line, you want to figure out how many widgets you sold in March
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant thats stored in a serialized column somewhere and thats it
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant and someone buys 10 widgets
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant lets say you have a store and you sell widgets
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:55 savant not really, but if you ever find you need to query for something in there, its harder
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:54 makallio85 Probably my question is here, is it stupid to store serialized objects to database of metadata?
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:54 savant dont allow anyone to change the data in the database once the user is accepted?
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:53 makallio85 I think querying metadata is not something I need, probably just regeneration of pdf
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:52 makallio85 And if I choose not to store pdf's anywhere but only create "on the fly" based on metadata
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:52 makallio85 What about data revisions? I mean that, if user changes some data in database and after that meta data is not same as it was in time when invoice was created.
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:50 savant i would store it as you would anything else so that you can easily query it
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:50 savant thats the same as any other data?
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:49 makallio85 Sorry about lame explanation
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:49 makallio85 Yeah, I mean when you have for eg invoice that user has accepted (no changes anymore), and I need to store metadata for pdf version of it
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:48 savant final invoice related static data?
# Mar 4th 2018, 17:48 makallio85 Not recessarily cake related question but how would you guys store final invoice related static data to database? Separate tables as usual or static data in single column? I see pros and cons for both approaches but i would like to hear about how other people has resolved this issue.
# Mar 4th 2018, 04:54 savant night!
# Mar 4th 2018, 04:54 slackebot Action: neothermic sleeps
# Mar 4th 2018, 04:54 neothermic Tomorrow it is then :slightly_smiling_face:
# Mar 4th 2018, 04:54 savant the kitchen is closed