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# Jul 12th 2017, 17:31 sturm Hmmm… I’ll mark that down for a future project, perhaps. When I am more comfortable/familiar with CakePHP.
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:29 dereuromark I bet you could provide an option for it
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:28 sturm Hmmmm, I wonder if it’s possible to modify the Text Helper’s toList() method so that it will include the Oxford Comma…
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:27 sturm You guys are awesome!
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:26 cleptric Sure, there are enough people around that kindly answer all your questions :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:25 sturm Excellent. It’ll be slow going, but I don’t mind investing the time in it. The project is already working (mostly) as a Java desktop app. This will be my chance to not only move it to a web app, but also to improve upon it. And you can bet I’ll be in here almost daily to ask questions.
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:23 cleptric Nice :slightly_smiling_face: I also started with a way to big project but it turned out quite well after some months. And I learned a ton
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:22 sturm Oh, I definitely have a project in mind. It’s a big one and might be over my head, but it’s something I really need to do for my employer. (Not to mention something I can showcase to get a better job elsewhere.)
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:20 cleptric Any plans what you want to build after the tutorials? I find it quite motivating to have a little project which can actually be used when finished.
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:18 sturm It looks like the API docs are going to be a major go-to resource for me.
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:16 sturm Excellent, @mikesmoniker and @cleptric. I mean, I’ve got a decent grasp of PHP and just recently learned object-oriented PHP (classes, using the arrow (->) to get at an object’s properties and methods, how to call a static property/method, inheritance, abstraction, etc.) from Lynda.
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:15 cleptric @sturm When I started programming in php, I took a similar path and to be honest, I regretted it later. Sure, the framework will do a lot for you, but having a reasonable background on oop php programming will help a lot. I started to contribute to CakePHP to do more plain php ^^
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:12 mikesmoniker Understanding the basics of PHP will go a long way (just like knowing Ruby is going to benefit someone writing a Rails app) in understanding what the framework is doing and how to get it to do other things. But for just getting started it’s definitely reasonable to focus on Cake’s conventions and learn *how* to do a bunch of the basic tasks vs. understanding the implementation details of what the framework is actually doing on your
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:07 sturm I need to learn CakePHP’s syntax and vocabulary to use it. I *don’t* need to focus so much on the details of the underlying PHP. (i.e., what the $this object is, following the chain of calls, etc.) Does this sound anywhere close to correct?
# Jul 12th 2017, 17:05 sturm Finished the first half of the Bookmarker tutorial. I think I’m beginning to see what I need to do when using Cake PHP:
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:59 jarard01 the data is as I would expect
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:58 jarard01 I thought I would also then have to remove them form validation, but it appears that they are set to hidden and there for by-pass validation by default meaning Angular and Cake dovetail nicely
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:58 cleptric What‘s the content of $this->request->getData() in your Controller?
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:57 jarard01 ok so I am using Angular to not show fields on my front end under certain conditions
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:57 jarard01 it seems that is the case
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:56 jarard01 fields I mean
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:56 jarard01 ahh - does validation ignore hidden files?
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:54 jarard01 it doesn't fire
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:54 jarard01 https://gist.github.com/spacebiscuit/ad07583634b8d732ad532e7f429477f3
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:54 jarard01 cleptric, there is an issue with validation - look at this simple rule
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:51 cleptric jarard01: This is an example :$ It just show you how you can contextually validate.
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:45 ericadeefox rant: Facebook PHP SDK is really annoying to figure out how to work w at first but at least I know what I'm working towards now? Thanks a million @jeremyharris !!!!!
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:39 jarard01 when I load my view: Notice (8): Undefined index: listing_type_id [APP/Model\Table\ListingsTable.php, line 113]
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:39 jarard01 https://gist.github.com/spacebiscuit/ad07583634b8d732ad532e7f429477f3
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:39 jarard01 this looks to be a bug to me, this validation rule is taken from the book:
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:33 dariolap ok thanks jeremyharris
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:31 jeremyharris you can use the “on” key, like ‘on’ => ‘create’
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:30 jeremyharris dariolap have you checked out the docs on validation? they explain how to do so: https://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/core-libraries/validation.html#conditional-validation
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:29 dariolap Hi all, I have this code https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fe33d07deadd8ad3ad7fe9f45403cb17, how i can to validate this only on create?
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:10 jeremyharris haha perfect analogy!
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:09 ericadeefox nah I just didn't look at it hard enough. I just found the exceptions that were messin my tests up and turned em off lol. so I explain this to my husband, who is an auto mechanic, and he was basically like "you're dumb, that's like if one of your sensors is making your check engine light come on, and so you uninstall the sensor" lol!!!
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:08 jeremyharris always worth looking at the vendor code ;)
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:07 ericadeefox it never occurred to me that there could just be a built-in way to turn it off for testing.......
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:07 ericadeefox I was scolded by 2 people yesterday for just going into the source code and do that tho. like I went in and just turned the exceptions off and made it so that it'd return the state values anyway.
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:07 jeremyharris it’s working?
# Jul 12th 2017, 16:06 ericadeefox jesus christ all I had to do was turn the damn thing off lol!!!!