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# Jul 11th 2017, 14:33 jeremyharris yeah, much easier to fix the deprecations along the way. the 3.x change will be massive though, so plan time for it. well worth it after the fact
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:32 neothermic So I've got a cleaner upgrade path
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:32 neothermic but this is why I also want to get past 2.8 :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:28 neothermic Yeah, the 2.x -> 3.x change is something we're going to have to tackle in our codebase at some point before 2.x is moonlighted
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:27 inoas there is no reason to change everything... the 2.x -> 3.x break and the middleware change is already a huge change alltogether
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 inoas $options schema validator
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 inoas NullInflector, AutoTables warning/exception, strict types, etc
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 inoas and I would just focus on making it less "trappy"
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 inoas I like how cakephp3 is
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 jeremyharris yeah that’s been the best thing the framework has done in its maturing - move away from too much magic
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:26 inoas hmic well at leas that's a "4.0 must have" feature... unless all that gibberish
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:25 hmic like the autotables warning lately
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:25 hmic there should be an option in debug: "show me all the magic i'm consuming"
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:24 neothermic Yeah, sometimes magic is handy. sometimes you work against the magic :)
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:18 jeremyharris was a Good Idea At The Time
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:18 jeremyharris if I recall correctly I’m responsible for some of that mess :P
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:17 neothermic yikes :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:15 jeremyharris here’s the hunk if you want to figure it out: https://api.cakephp.org/1.3/source-class-FormHelper.html#255-282
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:14 admad yes, 1.x did weird internal magic to decide which action/url to use based on request data
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:14 neothermic that might explain some of the redundant ones in this code
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:13 neothermic so in 1.3 you had to explicitly add an action?
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:13 dereuromark didnt have it
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:13 dereuromark one of my most important fixes back in the day when moving to 2.x, so no, 1.3
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:12 neothermic out of 120 instances where we have the word `action` somewhere in a `create`
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:12 neothermic got 58 occurrences to check ¬_¬
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:10 jeremyharris @neothermic I couldn’t remember if it was or not, but looking at the code it seems it is set by default if url is empty
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:09 neothermic so I have to evaluate if a) I need to move it into the url bit, or b) just cull it as it's redundant
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:09 neothermic it should, but we have things like `?php echo $this->Form->create('EnquirySubject', array('action' => 'add'));?`
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:09 neothermic hey, no need to slap
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:09 hmic should be seemless
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:08 neothermic (working on the 2.8 update from 2.7.x)
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:08 hmic slaps neothermic for asking about 1.3 still :P
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:08 neothermic some old 1.3 code that is full of actions that are redundant
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:08 neothermic Good. I ponder if 1.3 did this too? :P
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:07 dereuromark yes, always has been this way since 2.x :slightly_smiling_face:
# Jul 11th 2017, 14:06 neothermic to triple check, in cake 2.x, $this->Form->create() will default the action to the current action that's rendering the view, yes?
# Jul 11th 2017, 13:56 willem @johnwayne yes i know, that is something different.
# Jul 11th 2017, 13:56 jeremyharris diffForHumans
# Jul 11th 2017, 13:56 jeremyharris https://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/chronos.html#generating-differences
# Jul 11th 2017, 13:56 johnwayne https://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/core-libraries/time.html
# Jul 11th 2017, 13:56 johnwayne isWithinNext('2 weeks') etc