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Jul 11th 2017, 08:18 |
 cleptric |
> coding-standards changes? |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:18 |
neon1024 |
CakePHP has had coding standards since 2.x |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:18 |
heter |
im sick and tired of these symfony only lovers which often are blind with all the standards and they can't think outstanding anymore and just follow standards which aren't always best |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:18 |
neon1024 |
I would argue that it already is. |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:17 |
heter |
never used it on big projects but i would love to |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:17 |
heter |
specially for medium sized projects |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:16 |
heter |
i really hope that after cake4 release with all these coding-standards changes people will finally find out that cakephp is really powerfull and developer friendly |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:13 |
david_kim |
simple cakephp better |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:13 |
david_kim |
laravel gave me complicated version dependency hell |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:02 |
savant |
@david_kim if you follow along with each minor 3.x release, you should be in great shape to upgrade to 4.x |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:00 |
heter |
thanks @savant if ill find some interesting weird problem ill let u know |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:00 |
heter |
yep makes sense |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:00 |
savant |
and write the code to send an email |
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Jul 11th 2017, 08:00 |
savant |
then `include 'vendor/composer/autoload.php'` (or whatever) |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:59 |
savant |
you can certainly just `composer require cakephp/cakephp` |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:59 |
savant |
@heter we haven’t released it as standalone, but here it is: https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/tree/master/src/Mailer |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:58 |
david_kim |
@savant ok i understand. |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:58 |
slackebot |
there's also some issue with cake mailer which is not handling some weird case |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:58 |
heter |
@savant continuation of email problem case - so ive downloaded official sendgrid library to try to prove hosting guys that something is wrong with server configuration - but with official library its working on both of servers - with cake its working on one of them and on second one its giving me error - is there somewhere the cakephp3 mailer as a outstanding library so i could prepare like one-file test with same configuration using cakephp3 m |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:58 |
savant |
Does that make sense, @david_kim ? |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:57 |
savant |
but those are *very* rare, and usually related to a severe security issue |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:57 |
savant |
note: there *are* a few cases where we need to remove an interface in a minor release |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
what is this, laravel? |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
so no, 3.8 is not a more suitable name |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
We can’t remove deprecated code in a minor release such as a 3.x because that would not follow semver |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
so if you’ve upgraded to remove all deprecated code usage and are running php 7.1, you are done |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
in 4.x, we remove all that dead code in the core |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:56 |
savant |
so you can just update your code |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:55 |
savant |
we will already have provided things you can replace it with - in fact, you can do that now for anything already deprecated |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:55 |
savant |
in 3.6, we’ll insert all those warnings, so if you run with error_reporting set high enough, those will appear during normal execution, logging, or tests |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:55 |
savant |
just not very many warnings are being raised in code |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:54 |
savant |
at the moment, we’ve already marked a lot of stuff as deprecated |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:54 |
savant |
we *can* mark them as deprecated though |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:54 |
savant |
but basically we cannot remove code interfaces in a minor release |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:54 |
savant |
I’ve had this conversation quite a few times |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:54 |
savant |
no |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:51 |
david_kim |
@savant but if your comment right, exactly version naming is not 4. i think 3.8 more suitable name. 4 major version naming looks like broken compatible and added big features. |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:51 |
savant |
but really depends on what needs to be built/how much community support we get :slightly_smiling_face: |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:51 |
savant |
Probably targeting 3.6 and 4.0 near the end of the year/beginning of next |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:50 |
savant |
3.6 Roadmap: https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/wiki/3.6-Roadmap |
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Jul 11th 2017, 07:50 |
savant |
3.5 Roadmap: https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/wiki/3.5-Roadmap |