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# Jul 10th 2017, 11:58 dereuromark :slightly_smiling_face: generate it
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:58 makallio85 i remember there is, but cannot find it
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:58 inoas bin/cake bake plugin
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:58 makallio85 Is there any skeleton template for cake3 plugins?
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:57 inoas :/
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:57 inoas feels sad inside :E
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:57 inoas thats should be very clean and concise and I really fear setter-hell for options
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:57 inoas much like function overloading even
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:57 inoas either to stop the function from executing or - if one pattern is found - to continue - if multiple patterns are found to continue via proxying to protected methods
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:56 inoas so I would love to see that we support a simple php-ish way to create schemas that then can be used to pattern match for $options
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:56 inoas if yes, I fully agree but the support is not there
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:56 inoas like symbols? atoms?
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:23 lorenzo It would be better if php adopted the idea of enums, that Hacklang has
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:22 lorenzo I totally see you argument. I wouldn't like to have objects for all options, maybe only for configs
# Jul 10th 2017, 11:21 inoas lorenzo can you see my argument/fear?
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:57 birdy247 and have updated my index.php accordingly
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:56 birdy247 And I have a Application.php like this
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:56 birdy247 So my bootstrap looks like this:
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:55 birdy247 If I leave a DispatchFilter of ControllerFactory and have turned on Middleware, will this cause problems?
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:54 inoas ... and the gist above is just an alternate suggestion
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:50 inoas hmic and as for business logic, there is parts that are stateless, those can be pre-validated, and parts that are not (say like a specified $id not existing in the database) which still need to be caught by custom business logic
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:49 inoas my comment here https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/issues/10866#issuecomment-313391901 explains it pretty much
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:49 inoas https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/issues/10866
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:48 lorenzo what options?
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:48 inoas lorenzo I just wanted to voice my concern about setter interfaces for options (instead of something similar to pattern matching/pattern validation)
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:48 lorenzo did you have a question?
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:48 lorenzo around now, but I haven’t read back
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:48 hmic i've seen the first, and my initial answer was about that.
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:47 inoas https://gist.github.com/ionas/94e961bf414c78362442041081dad3ca#file-option-arrays-php-L4
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:47 inoas vs this very concise interface
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:47 inoas did you see the setter example here https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/issues/10866#issuecomment-313391901
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:46 inoas that class can exist I am okay with that
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:46 inoas I am not talking about the routing class
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:45 hmic me too. but it's up to your (custom!) business logic to implement these. not the routing classes
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:45 inoas but I fear the setter/getter-hell will be a very bad pattern here
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:45 inoas I totally see the reason to be strict/er on options
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:45 inoas it is error prone to miss-type options and it is error prone once interfaces change to forget about removing some etc
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:44 hmic why is this? - because the set of options changes. who would need to validate the possible ones? the underlying routing class? - not really.
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:42 inoas lorenzo around?
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:41 inoas thats what we do already but not standardized but always different each time there are options to consume
# Jul 10th 2017, 10:41 inoas building a pattern validator for the options and validating it against that before consuming the options