Log message #4017845

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# Apr 19th 2017, 13:35 hmic like i said in the beginning: yes! absolutely!
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:35 inoas however I am concerned about timeouts
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:35 hmic yes, if the cache is not warmed up, first access will be slow. who cares?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:35 inoas and then simply write the cache
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:35 inoas so you would actually let the requests hit the application
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 hmic so you use a cache!
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 inoas a fast read proxy
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 inoas because hitting the database is slow
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 hmic why do you?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 inoas okay, then I want a proxy ;p
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 inoas https://github.com/makallio85/yaml-route doesn't get purged
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 hmic a cache is a cache and its not persistent by definition
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 hmic for you too!
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:34 inoas yeah that's not where I want to go
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 hmic it can get purged whenever
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 inoas read again, not for me
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 hmic ionas: it's a cache!
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 inoas redis continues to live
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 inoas hmic but APCu breaks down when you restart the webserver
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:33 crazycoder i should set _joinData hidden on the fly
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:32 hmic but the fastest i can get, which is php-process memory (APCu) followed by memcache
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:32 crazycoder $_hidden on entity works but i cannot change it globally.
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:32 crazycoder hey hmic!
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:32 crazycoder it is really really bad but if there is no alternative i should do that: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3f55105fe22a4db8dd017285d140f383
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:32 inoas Instead? Memcache?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:31 hmic redis is a quite good cache for heavier things, i'd personally not use it for routes
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:30 inoas like https://github.com/makallio85/yaml-route but in redis
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:30 inoas redis would be not a simple cache but more like the router-storage
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:30 inoas and then build-cache-on-write
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 inoas I am considering: hit cache first, if not found, hit cake-stack?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 hmic you can of course warm your cache up however you like...
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 inoas well but then it times out
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 inoas well "slow" in relative terms
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 hmic yes
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 inoas hmic so first hit = slow?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 nemmons our routes don't change that much so we don't have to worry about re-writing the cache. i think we refresh it like every 6 hours and also have an admin controller action to refresh manually if necessary
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 inoas are you using cakephp's RedisEngine?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:29 hmic ionas: populate the cache when a route gets requested
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:27 inoas if a route isn't found, do you build it live/hot? queued?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:27 inoas nemmons do you write the cache on edit?
# Apr 19th 2017, 13:27 inoas else I have to do database queries for every on-page object