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# Oct 6th 2016, 19:10 nemmons have you tried using contain to explicitly load the associations rather than just relying on recursion?
# Oct 6th 2016, 19:01 Leidenfrost Ok. I have recursion set to 2, but for some reason Manager doesn't show Vendors, even if it still is an User model and Vendor has the right association
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:57 admad We just need to make @markstory spend less time with his family xP
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:56 admad 4.0 by end of 2017 might be possible
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:56 admad Heh
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:56 hmic let's say 2017 too :D
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:56 hmic well, i'd call some things out: it will be a "seven" release: php7, PSR7
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:56 admad Remember we don't get paid a dime for this :P
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:55 hmic its not even defined, as its unknown what should be in...
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:55 nemmons no rush here. 3.x is incredible.
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:55 nemmons :-) fair enough
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:55 admad @nemmons "when it's ready" is always the official eta :)
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 hmic rather a bit faster i think. but still 2 years in very very likely. admad, your bet?
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 hmic 3 years from looking at the past :p
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 admad Authentication is gonna be done is a middleware in future, so this particular issue will be gone
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 nemmons like, 1 year 3 years etc
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 hmic i think mark had a comment on my PR/issue talking about not even 4.0... :p
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:54 nemmons is there any rough idea of when 4.0 is coming?
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:52 admad Can't do anything until 4.0 so meh :P
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 hmic admad, i changed the execution order instead of renaming IMHO, but still. it breaks like everything in eigher case
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 nemmons good idea
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 hmic nemmons: share it on the book!
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 admad beforeFilter should be renamed to startup()
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 nemmons I'm going to sit down and draw out a diagram
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:51 hmic yeah. i did a PR to fix it, but - for the obvious reasons - it got postponed *beyond* 4.0 :p
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:50 admad The naming is surely confusing due to historical reasons
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:50 admad No, initialise is run first
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:49 hmic its quite stupid that the initziaize is run after bdfeforefilter, as i said in the beginning - the wording is so confusing! and the beforefilter event does the rest to kill all sanity in controller startup sequencing
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:49 nemmons @hmic yeah definitely. Thank you again.
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:49 nemmons @admad oh cool I'll have to take a look at that. Thanks
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:48 hmic so the things admad and i said are in respect to beforeFilter. hope it makes all sense now ;-)
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:48 admad Actually using the new 'authCheckIn' option you can have the authenticated user available in beforeFilter too now. Just not in initialise()
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:48 hmic yeah
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:47 nemmons @hmic yeah that's part of why i got so confused. I think if i understood the codebase better it would probabaly have been more obvious to me from the context that the reference to beforeRender was just a simple typo.
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:47 hmic s/your/our/
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:47 Unfaiir Anyone know a good screencast app? I have some tutorial videos i've written for using Elixir with CakePHP with the cakephp-elixir node module, but I've never done a screencast, so any favorites?
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:47 hmic nemmons: beforeRender does make so little sense in this context, your brains just autocorrected it to beforeFilter ,-)
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:47 admad I'll update the comment when i am on pc
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:46 Leidenfrost slackebot->nemmons yes, but for some reason Users->Manager->Vendor isn't shown
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:46 hmic good for clarifying ;-)
# Oct 6th 2016, 18:46 nemmons Ah okay, that makes things make a hell of a lot more sense. Thank you both very much.