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# May 31st 2016, 11:04 Neon1024 Now we talk about it, I wonder if there is any value in storing the timezone in the db alongside the datetime
# May 31st 2016, 11:04 birdy247 time to look further down the chain
# May 31st 2016, 11:04 birdy247 you are right
# May 31st 2016, 11:03 Neon1024 Date times especially, as my brain doesnâ??t cope well with time, particularly datetime windows
# May 31st 2016, 11:03 Neon1024 Quite often I think something isnâ??t working, but then I realise that itâ??s working but Iâ??m looking in the wrong place or similar
# May 31st 2016, 11:03 micalm Die Driven Debugging FTW!
# May 31st 2016, 11:02 Neon1024 Do make sure to double check your testing methodology
# May 31st 2016, 11:02 birdy247 but when saving
# May 31st 2016, 11:02 birdy247 it patches the entity fine
# May 31st 2016, 11:02 birdy247 raining and 5 hours on something lol
# May 31st 2016, 11:01 Neon1024 Ouch :(
# May 31st 2016, 11:01 birdy247 this is one heck of a way to start a week :) lol
# May 31st 2016, 11:01 birdy247 @neon1024 still tryingto use that Type :slightly_smiling_face:
# May 31st 2016, 11:01 Neon1024 Whereas a <td> would be okay as itâ??s always got a andnbsp; on the end to account for that use-case
# May 31st 2016, 11:00 Neon1024 Perhaps itâ??s because the table helper might fail if a value is empty
# May 31st 2016, 10:59 spriz Might just be my hate to HTML that makes me love it :P
# May 31st 2016, 10:59 micalm Also that table helper code seems less readable, at least to me, but I could live with that.
# May 31st 2016, 10:58 spriz :) I donâ??t think anyone would ever do that.. Whatâ??s the css itâ??s built on today? Foundation?
# May 31st 2016, 10:58 micalm I realize that, but in case anybody has any ideas because of that discussion above here's my :-1:
# May 31st 2016, 10:58 spriz rather than baking lots of `td<?= h($user->id) ?>/td` etc.
# May 31st 2016, 10:57 spriz micalm: I donâ??t think it should, my question was rather to use the built-in Html helperâ??s table methods
# May 31st 2016, 10:53 micalm If bake forces bootstrap, I'm manually purging even core bake code from all my projects. :P Too much overhead and really a PITA to fight your way through it's default styles.
# May 31st 2016, 10:52 Neon1024 I wonder if there will be a new bake theme, now that the new rebranding has happened for Cake
# May 31st 2016, 10:49 spriz I see
# May 31st 2016, 10:48 Neon1024 Yep, I have it as a requirement in my bake theme :)
# May 31st 2016, 10:48 spriz BootstrapUI has some bake themes as well thatâ??s quite awesome :P
# May 31st 2016, 10:47 spriz Me neither, but itâ??s so much more awesome than writing html with `<?= ?>` everywhere
# May 31st 2016, 10:47 Neon1024 As for the tables thing, Iâ??ve never used that helper method :p
# May 31st 2016, 10:47 Neon1024 Plus itâ??s quite the choice to push onto all your users
# May 31st 2016, 10:47 Neon1024 So youâ??d end up with bootstrap html and no styles
# May 31st 2016, 10:47 Neon1024 Plus Bootstrap-UI is just helpers, and doesnâ??t actually include the bootstrap css
# May 31st 2016, 10:46 Neon1024 Itâ??s more work to strip out Bootstrap
# May 31st 2016, 10:46 spriz Hmm, how come bake templates doesnâ??t use: http://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/views/helpers/html.html#creating-table-cells ? And bootstrap-ui bake templates as well? :P
# May 31st 2016, 10:44 unorthodox Internal companies are hiring developers from other countries.
# May 31st 2016, 10:44 unorthodox Well we got an issue with web developers in Cyprus.
# May 31st 2016, 10:44 unorthodox Ah obviously.
# May 31st 2016, 10:44 Neon1024 But last time I recall he said he lives in Cyprus
# May 31st 2016, 10:43 Neon1024 I think heâ??s Russian?
# May 31st 2016, 10:43 unorthodox Mamchekov doesn't sound Cypriot though.
# May 31st 2016, 10:43 Neon1024 Heâ??s in cyprus
# May 31st 2016, 10:43 spriz Too bad that http://meetup.com|meetup.com isnâ??t great for a â??I donâ??t care about the locationâ?-feature :P