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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:08 |
markstory |
they always start small and grow into an insane mess. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:08 |
markstory |
exactly :) |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
markstory |
But you can paint yourself in a corner quickly. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
mdunham918_ |
which i know the projects always end up bigger than a "simple database app" |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
markstory |
that might be true. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
mdunham918_ |
no they say for the projects they work out a few simple php files will do the trick don't need a huge framework |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
markstory |
*the |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
markstory |
But judging a framework by he number of files is not very smart though. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:07 |
mdunham918_ |
the designer has the strongest opinion and the half designer is the follower of the loudest guy lol then theres me |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
markstory |
filez. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
markstory |
Take a look at zf or symfony2 |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
mdunham918_ |
he's our designer |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
markstory |
they are crazy. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
mdunham918_ |
but that is there only complaint |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
mdunham918_ |
and its not like they are all loaded |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:06 |
mdunham918_ |
yes true |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:03 |
markstory |
all frameworks have a lot of files though. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:03 |
markstory |
but that includes test files. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:03 |
markstory |
I'm counting 840 files in cake2.0 |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:01 |
markstory |
mdunham918_: I bet more than half the files in cake are test cases. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:01 |
markstory |
was reeetarded |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:01 |
markstory |
c |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:01 |
markstory |
that was 'controller' login |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:01 |
markstory |
I worked on a code base that had a 3500 line switch statement |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 02:00 |
mdunham918_ |
instead of controllers he used one big switch() statement hehe |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:59 |
mdunham918_ |
i was like whateva he tried to write his own framework didn't turn out so well |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:59 |
mdunham918_ |
they ran some terminal commands on a base cake baked project no customization and it contained something like 1200 files or something |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:57 |
markstory |
doctrine is a fair bit more convoluted to get going for sure. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:57 |
markstory |
interesting, I've not heard that complaint about cake before. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:56 |
mdunham918_ |
yes directories and files |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:56 |
mdunham918_ |
To be honest what I don't like about doctrine is the fact I tried it out couldn't figure it out in 2 hours so gave up and decided i didn't wanna play with it anymore :) |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:56 |
markstory |
footprint? as in directory layout? |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:56 |
mdunham918_ |
hmm the only complaint I ever here from people is the footprint cake has but i myself don't mind it. I think its a difference between a designer and a developer though. Me being a developer care less about directory structure. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:55 |
markstory |
why don't you like doctrine? |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:55 |
markstory |
there isn't a formal list. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:54 |
mdunham918_ |
is there a list of things ppl don't like with them? I'd take them over Doctrine anyday |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:54 |
markstory |
And trying to make changes that address those problems, and give some better separation to models. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:54 |
markstory |
I think we'll start with finding out what the pain points are with the current system. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:54 |
markstory |
I don't even have a clear idea of what I would do. |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:53 |
mdunham918_ |
markstory: what would your propose i think models work great |
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Sep 22nd 2011, 01:52 |
markstory |
probably, there is a fair bit of planning and discussing to do around changing models. |