Log message #111560

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# Aug 8th 2008, 11:05 tbranyen I'm currently employed in a $50k project that requires us to write a custom cms... why isn't that company just using one out there?
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:05 tbranyen If thats the case, why isn't everyone using one of them?
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:05 teknoid tbranyen: considering the number of available, mature cms products out there, i'd say you are in for a long haul :)
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:03 tbranyen even if the client has no idea what that means
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:03 teknoid troutoil: there's gotta be something else going, $form->input() is not going to match some set variable to build a select list... it's likely looking at the model's field type
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:03 tbranyen its a name to associate with
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:03 tbranyen That looks a lot better than simply saying custom .net CMS
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:03 tbranyen I used to work with a firm that had a custom .net CMS built on netTiers
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:02 tbranyen chrisa: You'd be suprised.
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:01 chrisa So long as it suits their needs
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:01 chrisa Do people really care what framework their commercial software uses?
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:00 tbranyen Especially if I advertise it as being built on cakePHP. It would be nice to boast a claim of being the first commercial cakePHP CMS.
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:00 troutoil teknoid: it's certainly not a big deal to add the options, but I figured since the form helper is looking for an existing variable, it'd be a little more elegant...
# Aug 8th 2008, 11:00 teknoid chrisa: mit
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:59 chrisa I never looked
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:59 chrisa Is cakephp under the bsd license?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:59 tbranyen Might as well see what others have done with it.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:59 tbranyen Oh, I see. I was just interested in what cakePHP had to offer.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:59 teknoid tbranyen: well, that's what i mean you should look at any other cms that would compete with you, what difference does it make it if it's cakephp or not?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 __mork what is the better acl plugin manager out there?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 tbranyen Therefore making it commercial.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 troutoil teknoid: yep...
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 tbranyen Which is why I'm pretty sure, I'm going to be basing it off cakePHP, but I don't intend on making it open source.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 troutoil yeah...
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 obiyoda gwoo, That makes senses... I fell less than smart right now ;)
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:58 tbranyen I just recently finished a study on open source PHP CMS's for my current company. Open source CMS's are horrible for custom branding/coding, so my only real option is to create one from scratch.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:57 teknoid troutoil: are you saying that if you named the var 'linkcat' and made $form->input('linkcat') it would not need 'options'?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:57 gwoo ?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:57 gwoo validate => array('credit' => array('cardNumber' =>
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:56 obiyoda gwoo, model is order the field name is credit.cardNumber in the html it renders as OrderCreditCardNumber would that be what I try to validate on?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:56 teknoid tbranyen: in that case any existing cms is your competition, doesn't matter what platform (framework) it's running on ... right?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:56 troutoil teknoid: thanks, it works automagically in another form where the field name is just "category", but for some reason it doesn't find the multi-word variable...
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:56 tbranyen teknoid I don't plan on releasing source code.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:55 tbranyen I have marketing experience, I know how to undercut.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:55 chrisa A new one is created every day it seems like
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:55 chrisa Maybe I'm bitter, but I don't think the world needs a new CMS
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:55 teknoid tbranyen: no, there are lots of reasons to use cakephp ;) ... but do you plan to release source code?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:55 tbranyen I don't understand your question.
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:54 tbranyen Meaning why use cakePHP?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:54 teknoid tbranyen: if it's commercial, why would it matter if it's on cakephp?
# Aug 8th 2008, 10:54 gwoo tbranyen: any competition would be on cakeforge