Log message #107911

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# Aug 7th 2008, 00:41 polerin almost as badly as I do
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:41 polerin sorry, but lawereese slaughteres the language
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:41 TonkaTruck haha
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:40 TonkaTruck Somewhere there is a law professor who is very proud of me for articulating that.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 TonkaTruck It's a bit counter-intuitive because contain() is either a) semantically inclusive and b) logically exclusive or vise versa.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 polerin then I can actually start coding
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 polerin thankfully this I should only have one more after this one
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 polerin back to writing fixtures
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 polerin anyhow
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:39 polerin not 100% but that's my first instinct
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:38 polerin yes, because they are wanting to make sure contain is correctly fiddling with the recursive setting I think
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:38 TonkaTruck polerin: did you notice in the contain test cases that they set recursive before contain() ?
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:38 polerin s/result array/ resultant record/
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:38 polerin because cake has to process each result array into the nested result
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 polerin and really really saves processing
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 TonkaTruck polerin: Yeah good point I didn't even think of that.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 polerin no way, when you have 15 associations and they go deep, contains is WAY easier than going through and unbinding each of them
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 TonkaTruck recursive notwithstanding.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 polerin (yay limiting fields to needed! )
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:37 TonkaTruck I could be very wrong but I would say contain() is more like find() result beautification.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:36 polerin TonkaTruck: or reduce the load that M has to get back from the db
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:36 polerin and contain uses the best of that
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:36 polerin I used to use the old ModelWhatever->unbindAll(array('except for these'));
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:36 TonkaTruck So in the MVC world the C team is trying to give the V team something intuitive to work with.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:36 polerin contain was the first one of those things that really won me over
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:35 TonkaTruck Eddie_CRO: One of the things I tried before reading the contain test cases was nesting them, yes...heh. But no...think of it more like "beautify"
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:35 polerin TonkaTruck: heheh
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:35 polerin that kind of array nesting makes reading function calls a PITA
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:35 polerin it works in find, but if you're doing it that deep I would reccomend using model->contain or assigning it to a variable first
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:35 TonkaTruck polerin: Yes...but in the docs it seems more like "we're working hard to contain the fire on the third floor"
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:34 Eddie_CRO polerin, Tonka: It seems interesting. So i have to nest contains. Does it work in ->find or i have to use model->Contain?
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:34 polerin TonkaTruck: think of it more along the lines of "I want my results to contain this information"
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:34 batcoder-7 objective C is just apples little modification to the language
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:34 TonkaTruck Eddie_CRO: I was a bit confused semantically on the use of the word contain. It's either "I contained my wide array" or "my array contains..." I prefer to think of it as the latter.
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:34 chrysanthemum I have fun with PHP, i feel like C would be a drudgery
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 chrysanthemum maybe someday
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 chrysanthemum becuase I want to do some stuff for my iPhone
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 polerin Eddie_CRO: did you see what I meen about where to put the first snippit?
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 batcoder-7 non*
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 chrysanthemum i know, i've been wanting to learn objective C
# Aug 7th 2008, 00:33 batcoder-7 start with a nin dynamic langauge