Log message #1056297

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# Sep 28th 2009, 18:27 kuja What's up crew
# Sep 26th 2009, 22:59 Predominant Whats going on with the new bakery?
# Sep 26th 2009, 00:28 kuja gwoo: You guys partyin? :]
# Sep 25th 2009, 17:56 kuja_ I guess it has some rough edges to work out
# Sep 25th 2009, 17:56 kuja_ I'm a bit weary about the Parser stuff though
# Sep 25th 2009, 17:56 kuja_ man, cake3 looks cool as hell
# Sep 25th 2009, 17:52 kuja_ was fun though, you should come next time if there's another conf ;)
# Sep 25th 2009, 17:51 kuja_ gwoo, heading out early to catch a greyhound bus back to san diego
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:21 kuja Seems to be a little dead :)
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:21 gwoo we had some good fun last night
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:21 gwoo kuja: does he sound hungover?
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:21 gwoo and APC/Xcache
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:21 kuja Currently listening to Derick on Xdebug
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:20 gwoo i think we need to rely on php to help us
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:20 gwoo no it doesnt
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:20 alkemann but putting more than one class in one file doesnt reward enough to outweigh the .. obuscating?
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:20 gwoo which is the fastest PHP5 fram
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:20 gwoo i did some benchmarking against solar
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:19 gwoo and APC
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:19 gwoo yup-
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:19 kuja Or at least lazy loading to an extent should increase performance in that area.
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:19 gwoo its the file hits
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:19 kuja I think
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:18 kuja gwoo: Hopefully SPL autoloading will solve that.
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:18 alkemann at what number do you see cost of adding a class?
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:18 gwoo closures are actually fast
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:17 gwoo the slowest thing is still loading of classes
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:17 kuja i'd imagine closures would cause a sort of slow down
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:17 kuja i'm surprised it can be so fast even with so many closures.
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:16 gwoo and it's really fast
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:16 alkemann imma gonna let 1.3 and 2.0 amaze me first :)
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:16 kuja i like how everything's decoupled in a different sense from how ZF or PEAR is, and instead takes a more AOP-similar approach to interoperability.
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 gwoo you should check it out
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 gwoo ha
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 kuja )
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 kuja he wouldn't stop describing how awesome it was tho
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 gwoo yeah it is
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:15 kuja it's cool stuff.
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:13 alkemann any revelations? :)
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:12 kuja he talked a lot about cake3
# Sep 25th 2009, 13:12 kuja not much, just got done listening to nate at CodeWorks