Log message #1033654

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# Sep 13th 2009, 03:01 vanir sounds good :)
# Sep 13th 2009, 03:00 foofoo np, come back and ask specific questions and everyone here will gladly help out. the community is very supportive
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:59 vanir cool, thanks :)
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:59 vanir yeah
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:59 foofoo as BlackIce said, start w/ the blog tutorial and see what happens
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:58 vanir i'll try it out
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:57 vanir thanks
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:57 vanir alright
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:55 foofoo vanir: if you want structure yet still allows flexibilitiy then fire up a cake app and see if it sticks.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:55 foofoo vanir: pick one that meets your requirements. weight your needs and your wants and find what works for you
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:53 vanir so basically, pick one, stick to it, and give it time
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:51 foofoo vanir: you could even find a framework like drupal or joomla that have more features already available to you
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:50 foofoo vanir: you have to decide for yourself, and there are plenty of options out there
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:50 vanir true
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:49 foofoo vanir: you're having the same conversation that a lot of us have had in our heads. we're all in this channel so you can imagine what decision we made
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:48 BlackIce just start with the blog tutorial
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:48 BlackIce yup
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:48 vanir php is supported by more hosting providers, so i'm assuming it's easier to build and deploy something with a php-based framework, but again, where to start
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:47 vanir quit after the basic stuff
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:47 vanir i guess the problem i've been having is that i'm not sure which one to choose.. i got started with rails and got started with django... and kept shuffling between the two for a bit and eventually didn't end up learning to use either one properly
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:40 foofoo keep asking questions about frameworks if you have them vanir
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:33 vanir ?
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:24 abdelm If you like strict.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:24 abdelm And strict.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:24 abdelm I just found coding in CakePHP much easier.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:24 abdelm Well, umm.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:23 vanir Wasn't good enough in what way?
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:23 abdelm I tried CodeIgniter before, but wasn't good enough.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:22 abdelm Nice documentation
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:22 abdelm I'd go with CakePHP.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:22 abdelm So, choose a language first, then.. choose a framework i guess?
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:22 vanir For a beginner, which of these would you recommend?
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:22 vanir Yeah, I know CakePHP and CodeIgniter are PHP and Rails is for Ruby
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 abdelm a framework for ruby
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 abdelm and.. Rails.. is just another language.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 abdelm lol
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 abdelm CakePHP and CodeIgniter are PHP.
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 ^poi lol
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 abdelm Well, umm
# Sep 13th 2009, 02:21 vanir Hello, all. I'd like some help with choosing a framework. I've had extensive experience working with WordPress and the like, and I'd like to learn to build applications from scratch. Should I learn CakePHP or CodeIgniter, or should I learn Rails?
# Sep 12th 2009, 22:57 Hiall I'll try again savant ty