Log message #1033274

# At Username Text
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:19 kokdemir yep, exatly
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:19 kokdemir is there any other sample app. ?
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:19 BlackIce what do you mean? you need something more complicated?
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:18 kokdemir yep, I did but my needs not simple that much
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:18 BlackIce ~tell kokdemir about book
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:17 AD7six have you done the blog tutorial kokdemir
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:17 kokdemir could you offer me how to start
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:17 kokdemir hi, I am newbie in cake. I know basic php and I try to develop some small db application
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:09 GustavoRamos yeah
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:08 BlackIce the principle is nice, that everything is just a object you can toy with, makes it very clear what's where
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:08 BlackIce okay
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:07 GustavoRamos P
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:07 GustavoRamos so thats why i have a hate relation with it
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:07 GustavoRamos i was forced to program in oop once
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:07 GustavoRamos yeah, that i know
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:07 BlackIce and it works cross-language, the basic principles are the same everywere
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:06 GustavoRamos hahaha
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:06 BlackIce once you get a feel for it it's real nice
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:06 GustavoRamos and yep, i'm a homegron devver
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:06 GustavoRamos yups
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:06 BlackIce and if you're a homegrown dev, it won't hurt to get some good OOP books (not just PHP books)
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:05 BlackIce yeah
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:05 BlackIce so you just haven't got a lot of experience in it?
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:05 GustavoRamos but need to stick to oop i think
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:05 BlackIce okay
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:05 GustavoRamos i have a good background in php, but its the only language i program. i've designed several apps for office and etc, but always with old-fashioned programming
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:04 BlackIce why not?
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:04 BlackIce ahh
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:04 BlackIce advanced stuff is easier too
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos i'm not a OOP fan
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 BlackIce baking code reduces a lot of the base stuff that can be automated
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos i'll really give a try
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos lol
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos P
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 BlackIce not only when baking
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos i'm not so confident in MVC
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 BlackIce yup
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 BlackIce have a background in MVC-kinda apps getting cakePHP was easy, thinking in it needs some adjusting
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos and it reduces the coding time for really real?
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:03 GustavoRamos mm,
# Sep 12th 2009, 16:02 BlackIce a few months