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| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:56 | AD7six | alkemann: the intention is to use the users plugin from the book and enhance it as needed. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:56 | alkemann | we dont require complex rules though, so I dont see what we gain for the price |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:56 | jperras | e.g. record-based fine-grained permissions, or complex logic schemes |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:56 | AD7six | alkemann: as far as I understand |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:57 | jperras | alkemann: price? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:57 | alkemann | yes, the queries to the acl table |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:57 | AD7six | ini based acl doesn't have any |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:58 | AD7six | what's described on the group permissions page is basically ini based acl |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:58 | alkemann | well gwoo ok'ed this approach so it cant be THAT bad :p |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:58 | jperras | no one is saying it's bad |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:58 | markstory | iniAcl is ninja fast. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:59 | markstory | has some issues with Auth, but barring that its ninja fast. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 14:59 | jperras | I'm just trying to prevent us from writing a whole permissions system + testing when one is available that does exactly what we want |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:01 | alkemann | jperras: pretty sure all the code is there in the specc. what writing do you mean? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:01 | ADmad | jperras: this "whole permission system" is barely half a dozen lines of code ;) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:02 | ADmad | but if its almost identical to ini based acl as you guys say (i have never used it) then maybe we can use that |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:02 | jperras | even so, I just don't get why we'd want to write something that already exists and works |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:03 | jperras | if the consensus is that we want to go with the one in the spec, I'm fine with that. I simply want to raise that flag. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:04 | AD7six | personally I'm very "if there's something in the core to use - use it" |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:04 | AD7six | what about the future and extensibility for example |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:04 | alkemann | i didnt know acl had a little brother. i just dont want to use a sledgehammer when a pencil is required |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:05 | ADmad | we definately need to seperate permissions/roles from users so that specs needs to be updated anyways |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:06 | ADmad | alkemann: you only started with cake 1.2 i guess ;) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:06 | AD7six | ADmad: I added this as a start point http://thechaw.com/forks/AD7six/bakery/commits/view/7bc18220ca9167ebaf4428d9eefeea5e22852561#highlight |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:06 | alkemann | ADmad: yes |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:07 | AD7six | role would be the equivalent of group_id in the spec doc |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:07 | AD7six | since it's currently seemingly fluid I left as is |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:09 | AD7six | and.. that's all that would be needed in the users table: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/50458369 |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:09 | AD7six | afais |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:10 | alkemann | have have a users table then? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:10 | alkemann | we* |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:10 | AD7six | alkemann: there must be a users table, it's just not on the app side of things. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:11 | AD7six | thats a lot slimmer than the current bakery's users table |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:11 | alkemann | a plugin that is installed in all cakephp.org apps? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:11 | AD7six | yes, or designed to be so. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:11 | alkemann | and each of these apps have a separate users_profile model instead? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:12 | AD7six | alkemann: that's what I'm currently thinking |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:12 | AD7six | any (other) suggestions |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:13 | AD7six | user_profile is maybe the wrong name. in the users _plugin_ would be users and profiles. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:13 | ADmad | why is it not user_profiles :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:13 | AD7six | but each app needs something to point at a user and hold the app's settings etc. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:14 | ADmad | nvm.. its user_profiles in the AD7six's schema |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:14 | AD7six | ADmad: so I could during this conversation (effectively) refer to both with a different name |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:14 | alkemann | AD7six: think the plugin is a bit greedy if it also claims UserProfile |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:14 | AD7six | alkemann: look at the current bakery profiles table |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:15 | AD7six | it's in the current bakery's schema because the bakery was the first app but it's entirely generic. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:15 | AD7six | so user + profile < big fence > (role|user_profile|aname) + rest of app data |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:16 | AD7six | design for no joins across <big fence> and we're golden :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:16 | alkemann | ok |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:25 | AD7six | users plugin schema: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1054466554 old_passwords to allow us to transparently change from current md5 -> sha1 without affecting users |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:25 | AD7six | seem ok? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:27 | alkemann | why change? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:27 | ADmad | do we need all those messenger fields ? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:28 | AD7six | why change what? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:28 | alkemann | md5. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:28 | AD7six | ADmad: I don't think anyone uses them, but they currently exist |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | AD7six | alkemann: it's currently md5 with no salt |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | alkemann | i say we drop em.. unless there are lots of ppl using them |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | ADmad | AD7six: i say scrap all the extra crap |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | AD7six | I have an old dump, let's see what's in there |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | alkemann | there is a freefield ppl can write contact info if they want |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:29 | ADmad | interests, occupations .... dont need all these social networkng kinda crap |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:31 | AD7six | <5% of users have a profile (323 profiles, 6k users), ~40 of each im |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:31 | AD7six | so practically nobody |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:31 | ADmad | so i says just id, user_id, published and some_free_field where they can put whatever they want to share if anything at all |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:32 | AD7six | and my db is way old, so I'm sure there are more users and the same profiles :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:34 | alkemann | location might be useful thought. |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:35 | alkemann | yes they could put it in free text, but many wouldnt think to do so. and being international community, it can be useful to know where ppl are.. time zone wise |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:36 | AD7six | I think that's a happy medium: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1880086530 |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:36 | alkemann | agreed. except not call it bio :p |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:37 | AD7six | how about 'favorite_color' |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:37 | ADmad | seriously lets put in a random field :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:38 | jperras | favourite_star_wars_movie |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:39 | AD7six | http://bin.cakephp.org/view/884063986 |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:39 | ADmad | description is worse than bio |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:40 | AD7six | I am minutes away from falling asleep ;) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:40 | alkemann | heh, doesnt have to be nailed now :) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:40 | ADmad | just leave it to bio for now |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:40 | AD7six | ko |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:41 | AD7six | alkemann: do you still think changing hte password hash isn't necessary? |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:42 | alkemann | if it isnt useing salt that seems like a good idea :) i thought u were just changing method |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:42 | AD7six | good to hear ;) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:48 | AD7six | anyone know what happend to this article's text/contents? http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/pagination-recall |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:48 | AD7six | oh old problem (apparnetly) |
| # | Feb 19th 2009, 15:53 | AD7six | nite |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 07:52 | AD7six | where should the repo (?) for the users plugin, common the book, bakery and anything else in the future, reside. |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 07:56 | alkemann | we could include it as plugins in bakery and branch away later? |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 07:56 | AD7six | coolio - I'll upload it to my fork after some tweaking |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 07:59 | alkemann | do we need to work with forks though? |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:02 | AD7six | I don't know, I created a fork for myself since it's probably easier to manage experiments than via branches. I don't know if I have commit access the the parent |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:02 | alkemann | if u dont have. make gwoo give u access to commit to http://thechaw.com/bakery/source/branches/2.0.x.x |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:02 | AD7six | probalby I do |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:02 | AD7six | I'll check a little later |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:03 | alkemann | u forked the master, not 2.0.x.x though ? |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:11 | AD7six | I forked the repo, yo ucan't fork a branch |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:12 | alkemann | oh.. well the master wont have any code before after cycle one |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:12 | AD7six | at the time I didn't know there was a 2.0 branch, so that's the active dev? |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:12 | alkemann | yes |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 08:13 | alkemann | schema and baked files there |
| # | Feb 20th 2009, 09:58 | jperras | good news about graphic design |